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hairy worthen

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2014, 11:26:07 AM »
Totally get this PG1/PG2 thing. It's the nature of our roster as it stands. What I'd like to see is when Duane is in at the same time as Derrick & Carlino, that he is PG1. Meaning he brings the ball up, he initiates the offense, he runs the show. As of now, he is definitely "PG2" in this scenario, as either Derrick or Carlino bring it up and get things started when they're all in at the same time. Derrick can guard the opposition's PG, Duane should take the lead fully and completely on O. Need to maximize his touches and have him get the feel of being the QB. He looks to be a natural at it.

I don't see the playing time as necessarily being between, Carlino, Duane and Derrick. When Fischer plays he is not going to take Taylor or Juan's minutes, he is going to take one of the guards minutes.  Also Burton will play more and probably Cohen and JJJ.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2014, 11:30:29 AM »
I am keeping my expectations low for Fischer as I am for the season in general. There are going to many highs and lows this year and I'm just excited to see the young guys grow and hopefully start to gel more as the season progresses.

I'm also excited to see Wojo to continue to grow and see how he adapts to this roster. The future is bright for MU. Just trying to respect the process and have a little patience with undersized and inexperienced team from the head coach on down.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2014, 11:33:11 AM »
I don't see the playing time as necessarily being between, Carlino, Duane and Derrick. When Fischer plays he is not going to take Taylor or Juan's minutes, he is going to take one of the guards minutes.  Also Burton will play more and probably Cohen and JJJ.

Fischer 5, Taylor 4, Juan 3, Duane 2 Carlino 1.  

Right, I'm saying that I'd rather see Duane as the lead PG rather than as the 2, even when Derrick and Carlino are on the court  with him. I'm happy with the PT he's getting, and playing the 2 is infinitely better than not playing at all. I just think the more he plays at the 1 against various competition this year, the better he and the team will be in the long run (and the short run too).

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2014, 11:36:37 AM »
Right, I'm saying that I'd rather see Duane as the lead PG rather than as the 2, even when Derrick and Carlino are on the court  with him. I'm happy with the PT he's getting, and playing the 2 is infinitely better than not playing at all. I just think the more he plays at the 1 against various competition this year, the better he and the team will be in the long run (and the short run too).

Agree, kind of.  If derrick is in the game and not playing the point then he is even more of an offensive liability.  We need the 2 to score and the 1 to score and penetrate at least a little.

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« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2014, 01:00:24 PM »
Absolutely. TAMU dismissed Duane's play by making a deragatoty comment about "garbage time" and that he was awful or a liability the rest of the game. This was done to support his/Buzz's theory that Derrick is the "man". He does not like Duane over his boy Derrick--fine. IMO Duane is the future and already more valuable than the other.
And please TAMU, spare us the platitudes of his elight D, and ignoring the rest: like Poor FT and FG shooting; limited court vision; limited ability to penetrate; etc. But hey he is great at moving the ball side to side.
I will say it again for the last time: Derrick is a great kid, plays hard, has stuck it out for 4 years, but is only a backup PG. He is not elight, not a stud, but is a role player. He does not warrant 30 minutes a game. Maybe 5 each half, and definitely not at crunch time--maybe "garbage time" in deference to the Eagle.

 Ihave posted repeatedly that derrick is a backup pg deserving of about ten minutes a game. Duane is the future, but right now we need him at sg. I want him to get more minutes than Johnson at this point. And yes, in the osu game Duane was a huge liability on d and never played the pg position. He had a nice offensive run in the last six minutes (also known as garbage time).

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2014, 04:35:31 PM »
Sultan,

While I usually agree with your analysis, Juan is absolutely terrible off the ball on both ends of the court.

He can't set a screen or a pick, he's getting tossed around while cutting and can't box out a 6-footer from NJIT.

He looks gaudy, but his overall game is abysmal. Unfortunately, that's all Wojo's got.

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Re: SOTG
« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2014, 04:41:55 PM »
I just thought Juan kept us in the game when we needed him to.  But really I'm not all that vested.

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« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2014, 04:52:00 PM »
Ihave posted repeatedly that derrick is a backup pg deserving of about ten minutes a game. Duane is the future, but right now we need him at sg. I want him to get more minutes than Johnson at this point. And yes, in the osu game Duane was a huge liability on d and never played the pg position. He had a nice offensive run in the last six minutes (also known as garbage time).

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TAMU, you are spot on about Duane in the OSU game. He was far from the only offender, but his defense was abysmal and he did little offensively until garbage time.  Stop wasting your time trying to appease the most joyless Scooper out there.
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