Update: The BE is 39-3 to start the year.

[Tugg Speedman]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/conferences/standings/_/id/4/year/2015/big-east-conference

Title updated through 11/27 at 8:00 Am CT

[jficke13]

Heisenberg are you upset about something?

[willie warrior]

Hey--lay off!!. We have a young coach who is just learning how to coach (Forget that he was an Assoc. Coach learning at the hands of the master for many years) and young players being led by All Americans Derrick and Juan. The rest of the players were in Buzz's dog pound last year and are going through normal growing pains. The cupboard was bare, we have no height, and have not yet developed the chemistry.

For all those reasons, we must have low expectations and give the coach a pass. For at least two more seasons, when almost all the players will be his and fit his sysyem.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

It has been a great start for the Big East.  Something this conference sorely needed. 

It bodes well for MU if they can pull their heads out of collective asses and remember how to play defense. 

[wadesworld]

We'll probably be the only team in the BE to lose this year.

[T-Bone]

Is it DePaul?

[MU Avenue]

You have written: “The BE is 30-2 to start non-conference this year. Guess who has the ‘2’!!”

And you must really care about this given your use of two exclamation points.

Are you suggesting it matters how Marquette plays and that it matters how the team appears in relation to other teams?

What other reason could there be for noting that Marquette is the only Big East team to have lost so far?

[MU82]

I am so humiliated I think I will transfer my alumniship to DePaul.

[Tugg Speedman]

You have written: “The BE is 30-2 to start non-conference this year. Guess who has the ‘2’!!”

And you must really care about this given your use of two exclamation points.

Are you suggesting it matters how Marquette plays and that it matters how the team appears in relation to other teams?

What other reason could there be for noting that Marquette is the only Big East team to have lost so far?

Because they are going to be on national TV!!!

[NCMUFan]

Re: The BE is 30-2 to start non-conference this year.  Guess who has the "2"!!

Whatever.  Guess our conference victories will look awesome.

[tower912]

How will we live with the shame? 

[MU Avenue]

Because they are going to be on national TV!!!

Your reply here makes no sense. None!

So when you are not horribly misquoting people or posting yet another insipid poll or survey, you just write crap that makes no sense.

Your family must be so proud.

[chapman]

BE now 36-2 with Villanova picking up another good win in a great game over Michigan. 

Villanova (#12), Creighton (#23), Providence now 5-0.

Notable wins: Villanova (Michigan, VCU), Creighton (Oklahoma), Providence (FSU, ND).

Wednesday will have a nice slate of possible resume-builders: Butler vs. #5 UNC (-10), St. John's (-1) vs. Minnesota, Georgetown (-1) vs. Florida.  Would be great for the BE to get at least two of those three. 

[MUfan12]

Just wait until MU wins the next four!

[brandx]

Just wonder if anyone wants to keep track of all of those who have jumped off the bandwagon? I'm sure they will all be back later this year or next and act like they were with us all the time.

[Ellisium]

BE now 36-2 with Villanova picking up another good win in a great game over Michigan. 

Villanova (#12), Creighton (#23), Providence now 5-0.

Notable wins: Villanova (Michigan, VCU), Creighton (Oklahoma), Providence (FSU, ND).

Wednesday will have a nice slate of possible resume-builders: Butler vs. #5 UNC (-10), St. John's (-1) vs. Minnesota, Georgetown (-1) vs. Florida.  Would be great for the BE to get at least two of those three. 

Sad we're missing out on the party.  It looks like its shaping up to be an exciting Big East this year.  If MU had been decent this year, the conference would be touted even more.  Hope everyone keeps it up to help erase that Mid Major stigma that is being attached to the conference by the Power 5. 

[kryza]

Just wonder if anyone wants to keep track of all of those who have jumped off the bandwagon? I'm sure they will all be back later this year or next and act like they were with us all the time.

That would do as much good as an self-imposed ban on Ners.

[willie warrior]

BE now 36-2 with Villanova picking up another good win in a great game over Michigan. 

Villanova (#12), Creighton (#23), Providence now 5-0.

Notable wins: Villanova (Michigan, VCU), Creighton (Oklahoma), Providence (FSU, ND).

Wednesday will have a nice slate of possible resume-builders: Butler vs. #5 UNC (-10), St. John's (-1) vs. Minnesota, Georgetown (-1) vs. Florida.  Would be great for the BE to get at least two of those three. 

Many here thought we would be good this year, and Creighton would drop way off, including me. Who would have thunk differently? Now what the hell are we to think? I have it. No where to go but up for us. More Kielbasa.

[Sharpie]

Just wonder if anyone wants to keep track of all of those who have jumped off the bandwagon? I'm sure they will all be back later this year or next and act like they were with us all the time.

That would be funny. I've used the ignore button on plenty of posters this week. Moreso than I ever thought I would need to on an MU message board.

[Tugg Speedman]

Just wonder if anyone wants to keep track of all of those who have jumped off the bandwagon? I'm sure they will all be back later this year or next and act like they were with us all the time.

Like the head coach of Virginia Tech?

[RushmoreAcademy]

I couldn't figure it out. Who is the 2?

[naginiF]

The BE is 30-2 to start non-conference this year.  Guess who has the "2deuce"!!

FIFY

Kidding, we'll get better as the year goes along.  Given the attitude of the board recently i couldn't pass up the joke.

[Stronghold]

Butler is up 13 on UNC with 8 minutes left.  Could be a nice win for the conference early on.

[Tugg Speedman]

Butler won.

35 - 2 as a conference.  Again, wasn't it the head coach of VT that proclaimed this a garbage conference because it was not on TV?  Was that (a stated) reason he left?

[MerrittsMustache]

What's this board's obsession with how the rest of the conference is doing? Who cares?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

What's this board's obsession with how the rest of the conference is doing? Who cares?

Really??

[Ellisium]

What's this board's obsession with how the rest of the conference is doing? Who cares?

It's imperative that the Big East as a whole play well in order to attract recruits.  It's an uphill battle against the Power 5 conferences due to the extended media coverage they receive vs. Big East.  Consistent winning keeps the conference fresh in everyone's mind and helps us develop as a brand.  Need I say more?

[JakeBarnes]

It's imperative that the Big East as a whole play well in order to attract recruits.  It's an uphill battle against the Power 5 conferences due to the extended media coverage they receive vs. Big East.  Consistent winning keeps the conference fresh in everyone's mind and helps us develop as a brand.  Need I say more?

Especially given all the eulogies given about the conference and how it is "not a power conference." Success of the conference as a whole is the best way to silence critics and stay in the national conversation.

[Atticus]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

[Galway Eagle]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

Same here. To me this buddy buddy thing is weird I want real bad blood between schools. The only other schools I root for are Nova and GTown cause I want this conference dominated by the three of us over time.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

UConn yes, except when they played Marquette.
Syracuse, wellllllllll it depended who they were playing................

[tower912]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

I did when they were playing teams from outside the Big East.    I would root for UConn versus UNC, or Louisville against Kentucky.   I have no problem rooting for other teams in our conference against teams from other conferences, turning around and hating them again on January 1, and then rooting for them come the 3rd week in March. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

It's imperative that the Big East as a whole play well in order to attract recruits.  It's an uphill battle against the Power 5 conferences due to the extended media coverage they receive vs. Big East.  Consistent winning keeps the conference fresh in everyone's mind and helps us develop as a brand.  Need I say more?

Many BE teams actually receive quite a by more air time than the average power 5 team. For example, basically every MU game is televised. Most high major programs don't have that. I get that you were were referring to the talking heads though.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Especially given all the eulogies given about the conference and how it is "not a power conference." Success of the conference as a whole is the best way to silence critics and stay in the national conversation.

That was never a legitimate argument, and th BE has certainly backed it up. The BE is every bit as good as the PAC12, SEC and Big12.

[JakeBarnes]

That was never a legitimate argument, and th BE has certainly backed it up. The BE is every bit as good as the PAC12, SEC and Big12.

I agree that it wasn't either. But it was constantly in articles on the four-lettered network. So you just put up, let your body of work speak for itself and force feed them your success.

[jsglow]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

I absolutely root for BEast teams across the board.  I have a particular soft spot for Butler as we have a close friend at the university and know at least a handful of kids that currently attend.  Our own son seriously considered BU before coming to his senses and choosing to be Warrior.   That said, it still angers me that we blew a double digit lead during our road trip down there last year.  I totally blame chick for this misfortune as she metaphorically announced  #donedeal in Hinkle at the first media timeout of the second half.  Not.

[chapman]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

You provided my answer to your dilemma - we aren't left with any programs we hate so much that the good of the conference comes secondary to hatred of them.  Syracuse picking up big non-conference wins might have been good for the conference, but we'd rather they lost.  The rest will always be #1-#9 on our list of largest RPI impact, affect our recruiting, national perception, television/licensing funds, just don't despise any of them enough to root against them against teams out of our conference.

[Eldon]

What's this board's obsession with how the rest of the conference is doing? Who cares?

*Their out-of-conference record boosts our RPI.
*Their tourney success translates into tourney credits, which is $$$.
*Success by other programs builds buzz/brand/recruiting

Take a cue from the old BE--SU and others went out of their way in the late 80s to pick up Providence and SHU. They realized the strength in numbers. Their prudence took the conference from a top-heavy conference dominated by SU and Gtown to being one that is strong from top to bottom and left a mark as the greatest bball conference ever assembled.

[Tugg Speedman]

What's this board's obsession with how the rest of the conference is doing? Who cares?

Even though it has a historic conference name, it is still a new an untested conference.  reputation, TV money, home attendance and recruiting all ride on the success of the conference.

If, on the other hand, we agreed with you and said "who cares" then we should just take Butler's old spot in the Horizon conference.

[Atticus]

*Their out-of-conference record boosts our RPI.
*Their tourney success translates into tourney credits, which is $$$.
*Success by other programs builds buzz/brand/recruiting

Take a cue from the old BE--SU and others went out of their way in the late 80s to pick up Providence and SHU. They realized the strength in numbers.

Wow. So bad I don't even know where to begin. You should read some books about the BE.

[Galway Eagle]

*Their out-of-conference record boosts our RPI.
*Their tourney success translates into tourney credits, which is $$$.
*Success by other programs builds buzz/brand/recruiting

Take a cue from the old BE--SU and others went out of their way in the late 80s to pick up Providence and SHU. They realized the strength in numbers. Their prudence took the conference from a top-heavy conference dominated by SU and Gtown to being one that is strong from top to bottom and left a mark as the greatest bball conference ever assembled.

Don't know what you mean... Like SU and others were recruiting for PC and SH? Or what? I mean Providence was in the Final Four in 87 and Hall the championship game in 89. I don't think SU purposely lost to get those two some extra wins those years. 

[brewcity77]

Looks like DePaul might be jealous of Marquette. Trailing Lehigh by 7 at home late in the first half.

[brewcity77]

Great game between Georgetown and Florida. 1 point game under a minute in overtime.

[rocky_warrior]

Nice job by the Hoyas!

[brewcity77]

Wow DSR what a clutch shot. Great win for Georgetown, hope they can knock off Becky Badger tomorrow.

[Tugg Speedman]

I updated the table in the title. This is no longer a statistical oddity but getting to be very impressive considering the number of decent teams the Big East has already beaten.

[SaveOD238]

I updated the table in the title. This is no longer a statistical oddity but getting to be very impressive considering the number of decent teams the Big East has already beaten.

Yes, but will anyone in Bristol notice?

I miss the exposure we (meaning the Big East) got from having UConn in ESPN's backyard.  Providence and the NY schools need to fill that gap.

[bilsu]

I was surprised to see that we are the lowest scoring team in the Big East. Only DePaul is giving up more points.

[MU Avenue]

I updated the table in the title. This is no longer a statistical oddity but getting to be very impressive considering the number of decent teams the Big East has already beaten.

AnotherMU84Heisenberg: Your repeated updates to your original post here are unnecessary and kinda weird since nothing about a 30-2 overall conference record to start the season was “odd,” statistically or otherwise.

And that you have now updated it to “39-3” only seems like an unnecessary effort to legitimize or at least salvage your original post.

Let it go, fella. Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving.

[GooooMarquette]

Yes, but will anyone in Bristol notice?

Unfortunately, yes.  Bilas noticed during the Butler-Oklahoma game...and then mentioned that Marquette and DePaul were responsible for the only losses.  Pretty painful to be mentioned in the same context as DePaul.

The only saving grace is that I'm confident it will be an aberration.

[hoyasincebirth]

I give credit to people that care about the other BE teams and openly root for them to win. I can't flip a switch like that. I don't like any of them due to the fact that some of them beat us last year and we will struggle this year.

Did you guys root for UConn and SU, too?

Boehiem Exception. Hoya fans always stated you root for everyone in your conference, but you get one team you hate so much you can't/don't root for them OOC. For us that was obviously Syracuse. But you root for everyone else OOC.

[brewcity77]

Boehiem Exception. Hoya fans always stated you root for everyone in your conference, but you get one team you hate so much you can't/don't root for them OOC. For us that was obviously Syracuse. But you root for everyone else OOC.

LOL I like that. I think for us Marquette fans, that would be DePaul, but after the past decade, how can you actively cheer against a team that's that bad? Cheering for DePaul to lose is like booing the jabroni at a WWE event.

[Abode4life]

LOL I like that. I think for us Marquette fans, that would be DePaul, but after the past decade, how can you actively cheer against a team that's that bad? Cheering for DePaul to lose is like booing the jabroni at a WWE event.

Definitely used to be Notre Dame and Louisville.  Now not so much.  I was definitely cheering for Gtown and Butler the past two days. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

ST. John's in a nice battle with the Zags. They're going to cause us major problems this season. Their size and athleticism is tremendous.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

ST. John's in a nice battle with the Zags. They're going to cause us major problems this season. Their size and athleticism is tremendous.

Would be nice if St. Johns could become a consistent top 25 team.  The New York market is extremely valuable to the Big East and gives MU a nice east coast presence. 

[Galway Eagle]

Boehiem Exception. Hoya fans always stated you root for everyone in your conference, but you get one team you hate so much you can't/don't root for them OOC. For us that was obviously Syracuse. But you root for everyone else OOC.

I only cheer for the three that have won titles as I think they're the only teams pundits wouldn't call "Cinderella" stories of a team from the conference won it.

[rocky_warrior]

Providence is putting up a good fight against Kentucky...26-22 UK at half.

Though everyone is watching football...

[rocky_warrior]

And DePaul taking it to Stanford....up 11 at half, and they were a 9 point dog.

[real chili 83]

Providence is putting up a good fight against Kentucky...26-22 UK at half.

Though everyone is watching football...

Not so close now.....20 points.

[rocky_warrior]

yeah, good 2nd half for UK. Didn't expect Providence to win.

DePaul letting their lead slip too.

[cschor]

DePaul with the nice win! 

[brewcity77]

Xavier with a bad loss today. 1-2 against a weak field in Anaheim, especially for a team with a questionable non-conference schedule, is not a good look.

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz/status/539214358543622144

More fodder for the Big East's tremendous November. Marquette and DePaul were maligned but then MU beats Ga Tech and DePaul beats Stanford.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I know rankings don't mean much this time of the year, but 7 of the 10 teams in the Big East receiving votes.  Would have probably been 8 if X didn't lay an egg yesterday.

AP / Coaches Poll.

Nova - 10/9
Butler - 23/29
Prov - 29/27
G'Town - 33/36
Creighton - 34/34
Seton Hall - 39 / -
SJU - 40 / 45

Anyone still clamoring about this being a MM is a fool. 

[MarquetteDano]

I know rankings don't mean much this time of the year, but 7 of the 10 teams in the Big East receiving votes.  Would have probably been 8 if X didn't lay an egg yesterday.

AP / Coaches Poll.

Nova - 10/9
Butler - 23/29
Prov - 29/27
G'Town - 33/36
Creighton - 34/34
Seton Hall - 39 / -
SJU - 40 / 45

Anyone still clamoring about this being a MM is a fool. 

I still think we get no respect unless we get either 2 S16 teams and/or an E8 team. Need to have a few teams produce in the tourney.