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[geps]

Has MU 7th. Seems a little low imo. No way we finish behind Providence.

[Loose Cannon]

Has MU 7th. Seems a little low imo. No way we finish behind Providence.

  Maybe it will place a Chip!!

[tower912]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24751970/-15-college-basketball-conference-preview-big-east

This one isn't the first and won't be the last.  Their panel has MU picked anywhere from 6th to 9th. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Has MU 7th. Seems a little low imo. No way we finish behind Providence.

On paper, Providence should finish way ahead of us.

[GGGG]

Kris Dunn could be first team all Big East.  Providence isn't going to be bad.

[keefe]

Sh1t. We really need Wojo to implement an immediate Hell Week Boot Camp to toughen these guys for the impending campaign. Bert's methods were a vital platform for instilling the underdog mentality on a crew lean on depth and talent but inbued with a sense of destiny.  

[4everwarriors]

Worked out real well last season, hey?

[keefe]

Worked out real well last season, hey?

That wasn't on Bert. The incessant attacks by Ners and Chico throughout the season drove Bert ever deeper into the comforting womb of his Panic Room where he was increasingly isolated from his team and therefore unable to provide the insightful, incisive leadership that turned kittens into "junkyard dogs." 

[Atticus]

The best commentary was on SHU. "Kevin Willard: Your future at SHU is in the hands of a freshman named Isaiah Whitehead."

Ouch. Whitehead went from being recruited by the likes of UK, UL, SU, and UConn to having to recruit himself to college programs. Good luck with him, Willard. Then again, Willard is so desperate he has nothing to lose.

[g0lden3agle]

The best commentary was on SHU. "Kevin Willard: Your future at SHU is in the hands of a freshman named Isaiah Whitehead."

Ouch. Whitehead went from being recruited by the likes of UK, UL, SU, and UConn to having to recruit himself to college programs. Good luck with him, Willard. Then again, Willard is so desperate he has nothing to lose.

What happened that team lost interest in him?

[Atticus]

What happened that team lost interest in him?

He's related to Marbury (and Sebastian Telfair). I could stop right there...

He also thought he was good enough such that he could leverage his services to a program that was also willing to hire is high school coach as an assistant. Pitino, Cal, Boeheim and Ollie laughed at the proposal. SHU was desperate enough to give in.

[chapman]

6-7 is smart money.  Too many train wreck programs to bet lower than that, too much experience to bet higher.

[GGGG]

He's related to Marbury (and Sebastian Telfair). I could stop right there...

He also thought he was good enough such that he could leverage his services to a program that was also willing to hire is high school coach as an assistant. Pitino, Cal, Boeheim and Ollie laughed at the proposal. SHU was desperate enough to give in.

Hey but at least they didn't sign his older brother as a transfer right???

[warriorchick]

We always do better when the pundits underestimate us.

We've made the Sweet Sixteen twice and the Elite Eight once when the "experts" thought our team was just meh.

Last year they all thought we would run away with the Big East title.

[esotericmindguy]

We always do better when the pundits underestimate us.

We've made the Sweet Sixteen twice and the Elite Eight once when the "experts" thought our team was just meh.

Last year they all thought we would run away with the Big East title.

Hope you're right, but we hand a lot of unknowns those years with JUCO tranfers. JUCOs that ended up in the NBA two-three years later. We know that Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson, & Steve Taylor are average players. And they will likely either be starting or logging major minutes. And history has proven that freshman make little impact. Had buzz played JJJ and Burton all last year the team would be in decent shape. But they didn't log many meaningful minutes. Gonna be a tough when 6 of the 10 scholarship players have very little experience.

[tower912]

Hope you're right, but we hand a lot of unknowns those years with JUCO tranfers. JUCOs that ended up in the NBA two-three years later. We know that Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson, & Steve Taylor are average players. And they will likely either be starting or logging major minutes. And history has proven that freshman make little impact. Had buzz played JJJ and Burton all last year the team would be in decent shape. But they didn't log many meaningful minutes. Gonna be a tough when 6 of the 10 scholarship players have very little experience.

Great point.   MU was consistently underestimated by the national media Buzz's first 5 years because they never took the impact of quality JUCO's into consideration.   They would look at MU and see what was returning and the incoming freshmen, but never anticipate how much Buzz could get out of Buycks, DJO, Butler, and Crowder.   
    This year, the national media looks at MU as a team with no returning scoring, no size, no depth, and a first time head coach.    As MU fans, we look at the team through optimistic lenses, believing that the talent that is there can overcome.   The national media looks at MU and says 'meh'.

[Galway Eagle]

We always do better when the pundits underestimate us.

We've made the Sweet Sixteen twice and the Elite Eight once when the "experts" thought our team was just meh.

Last year they all thought we would run away with the Big East title.

If you think about it we actually made the sweet sixteen once and elite eight once when the experts thought our team was meh.  I know we like to play the underdog role at Marquette but nobody underestimated us in 2011-2012 (DJO and Crowder's senior years)

[Nevada233]

I believe nothing that I read and half of what I hear.....

I'm not a Dallas Cowboys fan in any way shape or form but the so called experts said they would finish the season 4-12 and their 5-1 now....

So nobody knows how things are gonna play out until they happen.

[ttheisen]

He's related to Marbury (and Sebastian Telfair). I could stop right there...

You're saying he has NBA talent genes?

[bilsu]

We always do better when the pundits underestimate us.

We've made the Sweet Sixteen twice and the Elite Eight once when the "experts" thought our team was just meh.

Last year they all thought we would run away with the Big East title.

and we always do worse when they over estimate us.

[willie warrior]

Ouch is right. How we have fallen since beginning of last year. Thank you Bert, the phony downhome lonesome cowboy. What a douchebag. Even Creighton ahead of us.

[Galway Eagle]

Ouch is right. How we have fallen since beginning of last year. Thank you Bert, the phony downhome lonesome cowboy. What a douchebag. Even Creighton ahead of us.

Are you saying he was a phony, downhome, lonesome, cowboy? or are you saying that his downhome lonesome cowboy routine was in fact phony? I read it both ways...

[Windyplayer]

The best commentary was on SHU. "Kevin Willard: Your future at SHU is in the hands of a freshman named Isaiah Whitehead."

Ouch. Whitehead went from being recruited by the likes of UK, UL, SU, and UConn to having to recruit himself to college programs. Good luck with him, Willard. Then again, Willard is so desperate he has nothing to lose.

Opportunity cost and risk is a hell of lot more palatable to Willard then at for an HC at a  blue blood. Programs like Seton Hall should take flyers on these guys all the time if given the chance.

[dgies9156]

Look, years ago when Al was our head coach, he found some weakness on our team and exacerbated it to the extreme.  Basically, somebody's hangnail was enough for Al to say "we're not very good..."

This year, I think the media is doing that for us. They see last year. They see the Hillbilly in the Hills of Western Virginia. They see Davante and Jamil gone. They see only the liabilities and not the assets of our team.

I'm ok with it. Our team will have a HUGE chip on its shoulder. Our coach will have them work harder and smarter than ever before. Our talent made us among the top recruiting classes in the country two years ago -- and those folks are still here in part because the Hillbilly aint!

So major media, Downplay us. Make us look like we belong back in the sewers with DePaul. Make us look as if we have no talent, no tradition and no coach. But you heard it here first -- don't be surprised when we're hanging around the NCAA in March.

Hope springs eternal!