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Author Topic: If the Scots vote yes for independence...  (Read 8115 times)

muwarrior69

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If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« on: September 15, 2014, 05:36:19 PM »
will the British Open become the Scotish open?

buckchuckler

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 08:19:43 PM »
Scottish Open.  It is hard to golf with just one T  ;)

muwarrior69

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 08:37:29 PM »
LOL! Thanks for pointing out my poor typing  and proof reading skills with a little humor.

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 08:49:07 PM »
Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Championship#Tournament_name

However, in 2014, with the new Open Qualifying Series that selects players for the Open through finishes earned in various PGA Tour events, the PGA Tour has taken to referring to the event as The Open Championship for the first time. U.S. television rights-holder ESPN/ABC referred to the event as the British Open until 2004. For the 2005 event at St Andrews, both then-cable rightsholder Turner Sports and ESPN/ABC began referring to the tournament as The Open Championship, and have ever since.

So basically this whole thing is a big conspiracy that ESPN put into motion in 2004.  :D

Coleman

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 09:30:28 AM »
Not sure if this was a serious question but I highly doubt the British Open would change its name. England hosts the tournament just as much. And the official name of the tournament is "The Open Championship," so there isn't anything to officially change.

FWIW, Great Britain also refers to the island, not just the political entity. So Scots and English would both still be "British"

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 11:46:53 AM »
FWIW, Great Britain also refers to the island, not just the political entity. So Scots and English would both still be "British"

I always wondered about that, so UK includes Northern Ireland and GB does not?

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 11:49:14 AM »
I always wondered about that, so UK includes Northern Ireland and GB does not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

(Seriously this is a pretty good summary.)

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 12:40:31 PM »
Will This Be the U.K.'s New Flag?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/03/will-this-be-the-uks-new-flag/284234/

Have you seen some of the proposed new United Kingdom flag designs should Scotland votes for independence?
Several photos and an explanation in this article.

Coleman

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 01:33:49 PM »
I always wondered about that, so UK includes Northern Ireland and GB does not?

Correct. Although Ireland (the island on which Northern Ireland is located) is one of the British Isles (which includes the islands of Great Britain and Ireland). So although it is not part of Great Britain, it is still located in the British Isles, and thus "British" in a geographical sense.  Confused yet?
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 01:40:12 PM by Bleutellenson »

Coleman

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 01:46:26 PM »
Will This Be the U.K.'s New Flag?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/03/will-this-be-the-uks-new-flag/284234/

Have you seen some of the proposed new United Kingdom flag designs should Scotland votes for independence?
Several photos and an explanation in this article.

These two make the most sense and are the least ugly, though still not as good looking as the current union jack




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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 03:33:05 PM »
Crean has a knack for designing banners doesn't he?

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 04:52:13 PM »
Will This Be the U.K.'s New Flag?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/03/will-this-be-the-uks-new-flag/284234/

Have you seen some of the proposed new United Kingdom flag designs should Scotland votes for independence?
Several photos and an explanation in this article.

So does every other flag with the Union Jack also need to change?

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/geography/flags/uklike.shtml
But I like to throw handfuls...

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 06:25:33 PM »
If too political, I apologize.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-YkLPxQp_y0?version=3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/-YkLPxQp_y0?version=3</a>

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 07:52:04 PM »
It makes me livid that Northern Ireland has fought for independence for years and gotten away with extreme discrimination so they'd stay a part of the uk and Scotland is given the opportunity to break away whenever they want. 
Maigh Eo for Sam

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 08:04:50 PM »
It makes me livid that Northern Ireland has fought for independence for years and gotten away with extreme discrimination so they'd stay a part of the uk and Scotland is given the opportunity to break away whenever they want. 


Most Northern Irish do not want independence.  Old poll, but it isn't even close. 

http://www.ark.ac.uk/nilt/2007/Political_Attitudes/NIRELND2.html

Things may change in the wake of a "yes" vote in Scotland.

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 09:40:27 PM »

Most Northern Irish do not want independence.  Old poll, but it isn't even close. 

http://www.ark.ac.uk/nilt/2007/Political_Attitudes/NIRELND2.html

Things may change in the wake of a "yes" vote in Scotland.
  I thought Keefe was banned for political posts like this one. I smell a double standard.

warriorchick

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2014, 09:44:37 PM »
Correct. Although Ireland (the island on which Northern Ireland is located) is one of the British Isles (which includes the islands of Great Britain and Ireland). So although it is not part of Great Britain, it is still located in the British Isles, and thus "British" in a geographical sense.  Confused yet?

Yes...

Have some patience, FFS.

buckchuckler

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 10:16:08 PM »
I'm sure that 200 person survey is entirely conclusive. 

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2014, 07:03:50 AM »
So does every other flag with the Union Jack also need to change?

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/geography/flags/uklike.shtml

I hang a Grand Union flag next to my US Flag during holidays Memorial Day, Independence Day & Veteran's Day.

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2014, 07:05:00 AM »
 I thought Keefe was banned for political posts like this one. I smell a double standard.


Well when you grow up to be a moderator, you can warn me.  I was merely addressing BB's point and not engaging in a political debate.

(Edit to add:  I am not going to go further on this, but this issue was one I spent a great deal of time researching and writing about as part of my Master's Degree work.  Like with most conflicts, it is hard to get to the truth when exaggerations and propaganda is thrown around like it's the truth.  By both sides.)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2014, 07:32:03 AM by The Sultan of Sunshine »

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2014, 08:40:14 AM »

Well when you grow up to be a moderator, you can warn me.  I was merely addressing BB's point and not engaging in a political debate.

(Edit to add:  I am not going to go further on this, but this issue was one I spent a great deal of time researching and writing about as part of my Master's Degree work.  Like with most conflicts, it is hard to get to the truth when exaggerations and propaganda is thrown around like it's the truth.  By both sides.)
  What makes you think I was warning you? 
« Last Edit: September 17, 2014, 08:42:19 AM by ATWizJr »

muwarrior69

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2014, 02:49:03 PM »
Well, they voted no.

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Re: If the Scots vote yes for independence...
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2014, 03:12:14 PM »

Most Northern Irish do not want independence.  Old poll, but it isn't even close.  

http://www.ark.ac.uk/nilt/2007/Political_Attitudes/NIRELND2.html

Things may change in the wake of a "yes" vote in Scotland.

Protestants overwhelmingly want to maintain ties to England.

Catholics pretty solidly against the same.

Certainly not surprising.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2014, 04:46:24 PM by Ellensons Tap »