What was Coach K thinking?

[Lennys Tap]

Derrick Rose shot it like Derrick Wilson's less talented little brother (5%, 1-19 from 3, under 40% overall) in the FIBA World Championships. Yet Coach K stubbornly, egotistically, insanely had him on the roster and insisted on giving him big minutes. Was he trying to throw those games? Maybe there wasn't an established star like Magic Dawsome on the bench to take his minutes, but 5%? Seriously? Dude should turn in his whistle.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

At least it is in its own thread. 

[Skatastrophy]

I'm not sure I'll get to wear my flip flops any more in WI this year. I'm really disappointed with the weather in the past week.

[MU82]

Derrick Rose shot it like Derrick Wilson's less talented little brother (5%, 1-19 from 3, under 40% overall) in the FIBA World Championships. Yet Coach K stubbornly, egotistically, insanely had him on the roster and insisted on giving him big minutes. Was he trying to throw those games? Maybe there wasn't an established star like Magic Dawsome on the bench to take his minutes, but 5%? Seriously? Dude should turn in his whistle.

I know you're being hilarious here ... but I'm quite sure that if the only change to the roster had been Derrick Rose being cut and either Derrick or Dawson being added, the U.S. still would have won the tournament.

Easily.

[Lennys Tap]

I know you're being hilarious here ... but I'm quite sure that if the only change to the roster had been Derrick Rose being cut and either Derrick or Dawson being added, the U.S. still would have won the tournament.

Easily.

Thank you for understanding that it was a joke. Hell, Coach K could have given a roster spot to a complete and utter idiot - you know, one of those inferior beings who never balled on the high school varsity - and still won.

[Loose Cannon]

Derrick Rose shot it like Derrick Wilson's less talented little brother (5%, 1-19 from 3, under 40% overall) in the FIBA World Championships. Yet Coach K stubbornly, egotistically, insanely had him on the roster and insisted on giving him big minutes. Was he trying to throw those games? Maybe there wasn't an established star like Magic Dawsome on the bench to take his minutes, but 5%? Seriously? Dude should turn in his whistle.

Yeah, he better not quit his day job!!

[Dawson Rental]

Derrick Rose shot it like Derrick Wilson's less talented little brother (5%, 1-19 from 3, under 40% overall) in the FIBA World Championships. Yet Coach K stubbornly, egotistically, insanely had him on the roster and insisted on giving him big minutes. Was he trying to throw those games? Maybe there wasn't an established star like Magic Dawsome on the bench to take his minutes, but 5%? Seriously? Dude should turn in his whistle.

Derrick Ellenson Rose takes care of the ball and is a game changer on defense.

[Lennys Tap]

Derrick Ellenson Rose takes care of the ball and is a game changer on defense.

Pay the man, Shirley.

[Newsdreams]

Derrick Ellenson Wilson Rose takes care of the ball and is a slasher and game changer on defense.

FIFY

[NersEllenson]

Derrick Rose shot it like Derrick Wilson's less talented little brother (5%, 1-19 from 3, under 40% overall) in the FIBA World Championships. Yet Coach K stubbornly, egotistically, insanely had him on the roster and insisted on giving him big minutes. Was he trying to throw those games? Maybe there wasn't an established star like Magic Dawsome on the bench to take his minutes, but 5%? Seriously? Dude should turn in his whistle.

LOL - Still grasping at straws over last season and your flawed analysis and take on Buzz Williams actual coaching/character?

But, I will indulge you.  Pretty sure one Derrick mentioned has an NBA MVP under his belt...perhaps that earns him a little slack.  I didn't get to see the FIBA games but I'm going to guess Rose was guarded everywhere on the floor, and was also breaking people down off the dribble consistently?  The other?  Well, not so much.  Not even a 0.01 Value Add as a Junior.  The key point of course being that you don't need an "established star like Magic Dawsome" to likely see any improvement over 0.00 Value Add in 977 minutes of basketball. But let's face it, to quote you:  "It could have gotten worse.  Much worse."  (With Magic Dawesome running the point.)  Hard to get worse than a 0.00 Value Add, 17-15, and missed NIT.

I know you can do better Lenny.  This thread was beyond cheesy.  Even for you.

[ATWizJr]

LOL - Still grasping at straws over last season and your flawed analysis and take on Buzz Williams actual coaching/character?

But, I will indulge you.  Pretty sure one Derrick mentioned has an NBA MVP under his belt...perhaps that earns him a little slack.  I didn't get to see the FIBA games but I'm going to guess Rose was guarded everywhere on the floor, and was also breaking people down off the dribble consistently?  The other?  Well, not so much.  Not even a 0.01 Value Add as a Junior.  The key point of course being that you don't need an "established star like Magic Dawsome" to likely see any improvement over 0.00 Value Add in 977 minutes of basketball. But let's face it, to quote you:  "It could have gotten worse.  Much worse."  (With Magic Dawesome running the point.)  Hard to get worse than a 0.00 Value Add, 17-15, and missed NIT.

I know you can do better Lenny.  This thread was beyond cheesy.  Even for you.

  Ners.  Don't know you but, It's ok to let stuff go once in a while. 

[Lennys Tap]

LOL - Still grasping at straws over last season and your flawed analysis and take on Buzz Williams actual coaching/character?

But, I will indulge you.  Pretty sure one Derrick mentioned has an NBA MVP under his belt...perhaps that earns him a little slack.  I didn't get to see the FIBA games but I'm going to guess Rose was guarded everywhere on the floor, and was also breaking people down off the dribble consistently?  The other?  Well, not so much.  Not even a 0.01 Value Add as a Junior.  The key point of course being that you don't need an "established star like Magic Dawsome" to likely see any improvement over 0.00 Value Add in 977 minutes of basketball. But let's face it, to quote you:  "It could have gotten worse.  Much worse."  (With Magic Dawesome running the point.)  Hard to get worse than a 0.00 Value Add, 17-15, and missed NIT.

I know you can do better Lenny.  This thread was beyond cheesy.  Even for you.

Ners, it was a JOKE. For the few humorless folks out there who wouldn't get that I even spelled it out. Step off the ledge. You have WAY too much of your self worth tied up in the Derrick sucks/Dawson's good/Buzz threw games meme. You've taken the pledge to drop the subject several times, but the numerous falls off of that wagon have turned your addiction uglier. What started as a disagreement with a coach's strategy has morphed into "Anyone who doesn't see it my way is an idiot". I don't think that's the guy you want to be.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I even had a gif of a lure early in the thread

[tower912]

Ners, it was a JOKE. For the few humorless folks out there who wouldn't get that I even spelled it out. Step off the ledge. You have WAY too much of your self worth tied up in the Derrick sucks/Dawson's good/Buzz threw games meme. You've taken the pledge to drop the subject several times, but the numerous falls off of that wagon have turned your addiction uglier. What started as a disagreement with a coach's strategy has morphed into "Anyone who doesn't see it my way is an idiot". I don't think that's the guy you want to be.

An idiot AND an adversary.  

[wadesworld]

The ignore button is pure gold.

[Lennys Tap]

I even had a gif of a lure early in the thread

Thanks for reminding us.

[NersEllenson]

  Ners.  Don't know you but, It's ok to let stuff go once in a while. 

I have no problem letting things go...but...I also know the original post wasn't actually a joke...much as Lenny wants to say it was...there are plenty of posts in Lenny's history that illustrate his intention in posting this was far from a joke.  Lenny to this day hasn't been able to be critical of anything pertaining to Buzz.  So now we have a LAME attempt/stretch/reach to try to justify the coaching decision Buzz made last season.

I know the post was intended to elicit a reaction from me...which I was happy to provide.  I personally don't care if the 5-7 guys that battled me all year long on Buzz's coaching decisions/playing time allocation want to induce a reaction out of me.  I have no problem obliging so long as they continue to post idiotic stuff like what was originally posted in this thread.  No surprise to see TAMU, Tower and Wades all chime in on this as those were 3 of the "geniuses" (in addition to Lenny) that all last season that refused to concede the coaching decisions Buzz made were awful...

I guess my position is, for how long do these guys want to continue to carry on with the ridiculousness?  I would have felt all of the egg on their face last season and in the immediate aftermath of Buzz leaving would have been enough for them to "let go."  But instead we find Lenny authoring up this gem of a thread.

Bottom line - Buzz Williams wasn't doing all he could do to win games at MU last season.  He was "gone" as of January 1.  His elaborate contract with VaTech that he negotiated himself (as he doesn't have an agent), isn't exactly something that gets done and worked out in a matter of days.  Yet some just can't fathom that was actually the case and refuse to believe Buzz didn't give a sh$t if MU won games last season.  Didn't care about developing the freshman...because he was G-O-N-E.

[Skatastrophy]

I have no problem letting things go...but...

hehe