New ESPN Top 100

[Aughnanure]

Ellenson moves up to #4. Stone drops to #6.

#69 for Noskowiak
#79 for Cheatham

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true

[THRILLHO]

Ellenson moves up to #4. Stone drops to #6.

#69 for Noskowiak
#79 for Cheatham

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true

Pretty amazing for Wisconsin to have #4 and #6 players. I'm relatively young but I don't remember Wisconsin ever having two recruits so high on these types of lists. Any of the old-timers remember a year when Wisconsin had as strong a class at the top?

[4everwarriors]

Y'all got wood?

[Tums Festival]

Amazing that they have Heldt downgraded slightly from 81 to 80 when all the other services have him moving up.

[wadesworld]

Y'all got wood?

Scott Wood again?

[Coleman]

Y'all got wood?

Yes.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Other notables:

Levan Alston: #85
Davon Dillard: #93
Brant Crawford: #100

I too am surprised by Heldt's downgrade.

[wadesworld]

*Sees ESPN has Ellenson the highest of any source and Noskowiak and Cheatham on the high end of rankings for them*  Clearly ESPN has the most knowledgeable high school basketball scouts and the most accurate rankings.

*Sees Heldt isn't even ranked, as opposed to just about every other service*  ESPN's high school scouting is embarrassing.  They need to put more time and effort into this or just not do it at all.

[LAMUfan]

*Sees ESPN has Ellenson the highest of any source and Noskowiak and Cheatham on the high end of rankings for them*  Clearly ESPN has the most knowledgeable high school basketball scouts and the most accurate rankings.

*Sees Heldt isn't even ranked, as opposed to just about every other service*  ESPN's high school scouting is embarrassing.  They need to put more time and effort into this or just not do it at all.

+1

That's how I look at fantasy football rankings for my team too, which is why I suck

[bilsu]

Pretty amazing for Wisconsin to have #4 and #6 players. I'm relatively young but I don't remember Wisconsin ever having two recruits so high on these types of lists. Any of the old-timers remember a year when Wisconsin had as strong a class at the top?

Washington High School had two very highly rated players. I think one was named Mills and I do not remember where he ended up. Grades may have been an issue for him. The other was a 5'9" point guard who went to Kansas.

[brandx]

Washington High School had two very highly rated players. I think one was named Mills and I do not remember where he ended up. Grades may have been an issue for him. The other was a 5'9" point guard who went to Kansas.

Calvin Rayford.

Both ranked pretty high but not top 10.

[Johnny B]

Brunson 4 star??

[starting5]

Calvin Rayford.

Both ranked pretty high but not top 10.

Calvin Rayford and Silas Mills from Washington.  I beleive they lost to Tosa East in a Regional Final.  Silas went to a Juco out west and was supposed to go to Utah with Majerus but ended up at Utah St.  That 1990 class was a very good class in WI. Ric Cobb had an AAU team that did very well nationally before you had national tournaments every weekend
Damon Key
Jimmy Mac
Logtermann
Ty Evans
Kevin Rankin 6'11 kid that went to Northwestern and beat MUHS in the WISAA finals on the final shot ever taken by DePere Abbot Pennings.  Was on the sophomore team at MUHS at the time and I am still in shock over that shot.  Not sure when the last time a WISAA or WIAA tournament had 3 high major centers 6'9+ in the field.

[Marquette_g]

My overriding pessimism keeps telling me we will finish second on Ellenson, but I sure hope I'm wrong.

[Johnny B]

My overriding pessimism keeps telling me we will finish second on Ellenson, but I sure hope I'm wrong.

I feel ya just somthing about Kentucky

[brandx]

Calvin Rayford and Silas Mills from Washington.  I beleive they lost to Tosa East in a Regional Final.  Silas went to a Juco out west and was supposed to go to Utah with Majerus but ended up at Utah St.  That 1990 class was a very good class in WI. Ric Cobb had an AAU team that did very well nationally before you had national tournaments every weekend
Damon Key
Jimmy Mac
Logtermann
Ty Evans
Kevin Rankin 6'11 kid that went to Northwestern and beat MUHS in the WISAA finals on the final shot ever taken by DePere Abbot Pennings.  Was on the sophomore team at MUHS at the time and I am still in shock over that shot.  Not sure when the last time a WISAA or WIAA tournament had 3 high major centers 6'9+ in the field.

Good post, Starting 5.

Majerus did recruit MIlls who never actually played for him. If I recall, he went to several JCs and ended up playing for that respected leader of men, Larry Eustachy who manges to make Bruce Pearl look like the pope. Could have been a great Utah team though, with Mills and Keith Van Horne.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I feel ya just somthing about Kentucky

Agreed, but Kentucky has to make him a priority before we have to worry. Ellenson is about number 14 on their priority list. We should have him locked up before then.

[Freeport Warrior]

Amazing that they have Heldt downgraded slightly from 81 to 80 when all the other services have him moving up.

Heldt's 80 rating has him pretty much tied with #94 - #100, yet he is not an ESPN 100 player. Don't know what parameters they used to distinguish the players with 80 rankings. No worries though. I've seen them all play except Cheatham and if we get Ellingsen, this will be one epic class. Wish we still had McKay (and Juan would have been the one to leave, or re-leave). Excited nonetheless.

[mujivitz06]

Heldt's 80 rating has him pretty much tied with #94 - #100, yet he is not an ESPN 100 player. Don't know what parameters they used to distinguish the players with 80 rankings. No worries though. I've seen them all play except Cheatham and if we get Ellingsen, this will be one epic class. Wish we still had McKay (and Juan would have been the one to leave, or re-leave). Excited nonetheless.

The hell is Ellingsen?

[MU82]

The hell is Ellingsen?

I think he might be related to Devante.

[Freeport Warrior]

The hell is Ellingsen?

I have done this so many times I must have a mental block. Working with a guy with the same name and spelling does not help.

[brandx]

I have done this so many times I must have a mental block. Working with a guy with the same name and spelling does not help.

Certainly think you are credible enough on this board to get away with it.

[brandx]

Heldt's 80 rating has him pretty much tied with #94 - #100, yet he is not an ESPN 100 player. Don't know what parameters they used to distinguish the players with 80 rankings. No worries though. I've seen them all play except Cheatham and if we get Ellingsen, this will be one epic class. Wish we still had McKay (and Juan would have been the one to leave, or re-leave). Excited nonetheless.

Rating feels about right to me..

Heldt reminds me of when we would be in the NCAAs and would play a mid-major with a 6'11" center who could shoot and averaged about 15/8.

I'd always think (especially the years that we lacked size) why couldn't we get guys like this. I think he will be a solid guy in the rotation and possible a stater in his last two years for us.

[Freeport Warrior]

Heldt reminds me of when we would be in the NCAAs and would play a mid-major with a 6'11" center who could shoot and averaged about 15/8.

Exactly. But I would say Heldt looks like that guy right now -- a coordinated big with a little softness to his frame. Once he gets in the weight room, he is going to a beast by junior year. IMO both Fischer and Heldt will make huge strides once their bodies get D1 strength. Davante was a great scorer, and Otule served us pretty well on D, but our new bigs will have solid skills on both sides of the court. That will be a welcome change to the sub in and out all game because Davante couldn't guard anyone and Otule had no post game. This is just a guess, but I think we will see a much more even flow to the games with Wojo. In my world, volume scorers like JJJ, Duane and Deonte will come out when they are gassed, not every few minutes. Derrick will come in to "hold the fort down" while the point gets rest -- he will play great D, limit mistakes and run the show. It will be an interesting year, especially being so undersized to start the season, but I am optimistic that we are building something very special. Looking forward to the Ellensen (I can spell it right) commitment.

[Dawson Rental]

The hell is Ellingsen?

You've never heard of Duke Ellingsen?

[Tums Festival]

Exactly. But I would say Heldt looks like that guy right now -- a coordinated big with a little softness to his frame. Once he gets in the weight room, he is going to a beast by junior year. IMO both Fischer and Heldt will make huge strides once their bodies get D1 strength. Davante was a great scorer, and Otule served us pretty well on D, but our new bigs will have solid skills on both sides of the court. That will be a welcome change to the sub in and out all game because Davante couldn't guard anyone and Otule had no post game. This is just a guess, but I think we will see a much more even flow to the games with Wojo. In my world, volume scorers like JJJ, Duane and Deonte will come out when they are gassed, not every few minutes. Derrick will come in to "hold the fort down" while the point gets rest -- he will play great D, limit mistakes and run the show. It will be an interesting year, especially being so undersized to start the season, but I am optimistic that we are building something very special. Looking forward to the Ellensen (I can spell it right) commitment.

Ellenson...

[Freeport Warrior]

Ellenson...

I punished myself with a name change

[Litehouse]

I punished myself with a name change

Ha!  Everyone should change their username to include "Ellenson" until he commits.

[Wade-A-Minute]

Any of the old-timers remember a year when Wisconsin had as strong a class at the top?

Maybe not as strong as 2015 at the top but 1976 was special...

6'10" Jeff Wolf kohler - UNC
6'10" Kurt Nimphius So Milw. - ASU
6'9" Bill Butrym MUHS - Creighton
6'7" Joe Chrnelich Pius - UW
6'7" Dick Miller Thom Moore - Toledo
6'7" Charlie Brown Whitefish Bay - Cornell
6'7" Jeff Goldstein W.A. Central - Cincinnati/Concordia
6'5" Tom Warda MUHS - Ole Miss/St. Mary's
6'5" Jim Smallins Whitefish Bay - Princeton

[Tums Festival]

I punished myself with a name change

New name is great!

[JakeBarnes]

Everyone realizes that if Henry Sugar changes his name, it'll just be Henry Ellenson,right>