Cloud storage exposed?

[forgetful]

I suppose, just seems really stupid.  In today's day and age, you take a photo of yourself or someone else in that type of situation, bad things seem to follow.  Digital destruction.  Appreciate the response. 

My wife and I have had this conversation with our kids many times.  You take photos like this, guaranteed someone is saving it for later, or sending it to a buddy, or whatever.  It will come back on you, guaranteed.  Don't take the photo.  Period.

I always say, don't take any photos that you would be embarrassed if the world saw them.  In the digital era nothing is safe or sacred.

[forgetful]

JB

I am the COO of a Microsoft-funded enterprise developing platforms for the Azure stack. We are deploying our first Health Care pilot with a major cancer research center, two regional health care facilities and underserved clinics in the PNW. 

Obviously, patient privacy and security are central to the delivery and we have a significantly improved security protocols based on emergent stream architectures that are parameter-defined. This is an innovative way to provide significantly heightened security around huge amounts of data.

I understand what you are saying about ongoing security issues but the Cloud is far more secure than storing on an individual box.  And the point of the Cloud isn't storage but, rather, computing power. As we aggregate EMRs we can have 50,000 servers slewed to a query in seconds with the end result being the harmonization of records and the democratization of patient care.

Big Data has been a reality for decades but only now is the infrastructure enabling its incredible potential. 

I understand the ability to increase security with huge amounts of data, but with that comes an increased motivation to target them.  In the end it is all software and software can be beaten with enough motivations.

If it is economically viable to target these "large data" clouds, then people will and you can't stop them.

[Jay Bee]

Not a morality play at all.  I'm curious why people take naked photos of themselves....are they that vane? 

Vane is a noun, so uhh... but, are they that vain? Yes. You saw it with the ice bucket challenge. yay yay yay, look at me. Guarantee you some of the people whose photo was leaked don't care much at all; are a bit turned on by it.

And sometimes it's important to take a keep pics. My guy ZFB always makes sure to get a pic of his friends with an ID, just in case.

[keefe]

I understand the ability to increase security with huge amounts of data, but with that comes an increased motivation to target them.  In the end it is all software and software can be beaten with enough motivations.

If it is economically viable to target these "large data" clouds, then people will and you can't stop them.

At the end of the day, what is important is improving the quality of patient care, especially for underserved populations.

[ChicosBailBonds]

What if people started hacking others' search and browsing history?

4ever's would likely include a lot of "Gail Pudvan"   

[forgetful]

At the end of the day, what is important is improving the quality of patient care, especially for underserved populations.

I'm actually fine with it for medical records.  Maybe I'm strange, but I wouldn't have any problem with anyone hacking my medical records. 

[keefe]

I'm actually fine with it for medical records.  Maybe I'm strange, but I wouldn't have any problem with anyone hacking my medical records. 

I'm the same way. But the reality is that certain patient data is worth its weight in gold for research purposes.

What's interesting about our project is that it is harmonizing data to enable democratization of patient care.

[GOO]

This just may bring back the Polaroid camera....

But, unless you develop the film yourself, you are handing your film over to a minimum wage youngster to do with as they please.

If you mean a digital Polaroid, it would be easier just to turn off the icloud or other backup service on the phone.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

But, unless you develop the film yourself, you are handing your film over to a minimum wage youngster to do with as they please.

If you mean a digital Polaroid, it would be easier just to turn off the icloud or other backup service on the phone.

Have you ever used a Polaroid?  There is no film to develop -- the original 'instant' camera

[GOO]

Have you ever used a Polaroid?  There is no film to develop -- the original 'instant' camera

No.  I think of Polaroid as a brand, but if it means an instant camera that prints the picture, my fault.  I am just old enough to remember them from the 1970's but never used one.

[brandx]

I'm actually fine with it for medical records.  Maybe I'm strange, but I wouldn't have any problem with anyone hacking my medical records. 

It's not about not having anything to hide. And if you have no problem with it, then you must feel it would be OK for anyone.

Companies would want these records to look at regarding hiring. Do you have diabetes? Had cancer at some point in your life. Seen a mental health professional? Had various other medical issues?

These would be reasons for a company to not hire you. Can drive up insurance costs. They may think you would be a risk to miss a lot of work. With many companies funding their own insurance plans, these medical records can become very important - and not to your benefit.

[warriorchick]

But, unless you develop the film yourself, you are handing your film over to a minimum wage youngster to do with as they please.

If you mean a digital Polaroid, it would be easier just to turn off the icloud or other backup service on the phone.

What are you talking about?  I am talking about this:



As demonstrated by the lovely Candice Bergen in 1977:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02YnORALXM

[GGGG]

I like your pin shot
I keep it with your letter
Done up in blueprint blue
It sure looks good on you

[GOO]

What are you talking about?  I am talking about this:



As demonstrated by the lovely Candice Bergen in 1977:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02YnORALXM

No, but I now understand.  Muscoop often humbles me and proves that I am even dimmer than I thought.  Somehow I've managed to make it in this world, but scoop often makes me wonder how...

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm actually fine with it for medical records.  Maybe I'm strange, but I wouldn't have any problem with anyone hacking my medical records. 

For mine, I agree.  For others, disagree tremendously.   Quite frankly, if some guy took some anti-depressant 20 years ago and is now running for Senator, I don't particularly care, but it would be used against them.  If some guy is running for POTUS and he's popping Viagra every 10 minutes, God Bless him but that data is none of my business either, yet it would get out there.

So on and so forth. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

No, but I now understand.  Muscoop often humbles me and proves that I am even dimmer than I thought.  Somehow I've managed to make it in this world, but scoop often makes me wonder how...

I remember as a kid the photo would come out and you would see people waving the photo to "make it develop faster".  I always wondered if that was incredible BS or really did speed up the process.  Mythbusters will have to do something with that one.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

Vane is a noun, so uhh... but, are they that vain? Yes. You saw it with the ice bucket challenge. yay yay yay, look at me. Guarantee you some of the people whose photo was leaked don't care much at all; are a bit turned on by it.

Damn, you respond to my misspelling of vane, but still won't provide the correct list of Kentucky recruits you chastised several of us for.....



By the way, yes I agree with your other comments on this post.

[4everwarriors]

Kodachrome
They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world's a sunny day
I got a Nikon camera
I love to take a photograph
So mama don't take my Kodachrome away

[77ncaachamps]

This just may bring back the Polaroid camera....

Kid waving a Polaroid photo vigorously: "I've been waving for more than 6 seconds. Whattya mean it's not like Snapchat?"

[warriorchick]

I remember as a kid the photo would come out and you would see people waving the photo to "make it develop faster".  I always wondered if that was incredible BS or really did speed up the process.  Mythbusters will have to do something with that one.   

Hence Andre 3000 telling young ladies to "Shake it like a Polaroid picture,"  a lyric was understood by exactly no one under the age of 30.

[ChicosBailBonds]

[mu03eng]

I'm the same way. But the reality is that certain patient data is worth its weight in gold for research purposes.

What's interesting about our project is that it is harmonizing data to enable democratization of patient care.

To be honest, I think the movement is to get to the point where we can sell our own data.  I'm fine with Google having my data, I'm fine with my medical records being available to researchers....however, I'd like to profit from that.  There is a value to the users of my data, but it's my data.  You can have it, if you pay me for it.

[keefe]

To be honest, I think the movement is to get to the point where we can sell our own data.  I'm fine with Google having my data, I'm fine with my medical records being available to researchers....however, I'd like to profit from that.  There is a value to the users of my data, but it's my data.  You can have it, if you pay me for it.

Just came out of a meeting at MS on this and our Chief Medical Info Officer pointed out that patients don't care about the data. The whole point of Big Data is to democratize information so that data isn't just sucked up into the ether repositories but so that it can be used in underserved populations by providers.

[jesmu84]

Just came out of a meeting at MS on this and our Chief Medical Info Officer pointed out that patients don't care about the data. The whole point of Big Data is to democratize information so that data isn't just sucked up into the ether repositories but so that it can be used in underserved populations by providers.

I don't think it needs to stop there. You could look at population trends, gender trends, age trends, etc. vs disease and outcomes sorted by different therapies and such. Electronic medical records could open up whole new areas of research that would have been so much harder to do on paper.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Just came out of a meeting at MS on this and our Chief Medical Info Officer pointed out that patients don't care about the data. The whole point of Big Data is to democratize information so that data isn't just sucked up into the ether repositories but so that it can be used in underserved populations by providers.

My guess is your chief medical info officer is correct IF it is aggregated data.  People start to care when it is attached to a face, or a SS #, or what have you. 

For example, if they think it is going to keep them from getting a job, they might care.  Or if it is going to raise their auto insurance premium, or whatever.   If it's in the blind, I would agree, no one is going to care.  But how will the data be used, who else gets their hands on it, etc, is always a concern.

I'd be curious to hear the legal side of the treatments that come from the data.  A drug company can create a drug that for 99.99999% of the public works a certain way, but rest assured the 0.0001% that has a different reaction to it will result in a lawsuit, etc,.  So, if you're taking 50,000 records of type 1 diabetics and comparing and contrasting how certain insulin works, etc to help effectively treat other diabetics, but for whatever reason it has a negative reaction to some small group of type 1 diabetics as a result (in other words, the doctor is sued for not treating them as an individual but as a collective data point), what's the liability if any?

For the record, I'm all for this technology and think it will help the vast majority of people, but I also know how F'd our country can be and the realities of a litigious society we have.