[PaintTouches]Marquette: What to expect from senior Juan Anderson

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Marquette: What to expect from senior Juan Anderson

When I spoke to Castro Valley head coach Nick Jones three years ago about 18-year-old Juan Anderson, he couldn’t stress enough that Marquette’s newest top 100 recruit was a player who was able to adapt to his surroundings, work hard and could surprise with a versatile skill set capable of playing multiple positions when the […]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://pixel.wp.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=11905&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />

Source: Marquette: What to expect from senior Juan Anderson

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Juan is an interesting player.

I can't really think of anything he does exceedingly well, but he's not horrible at any specific skill or area either.

His shooting percentages aren't particularly good, but his stroke is good, he seems to be able to get his shot off, so it's hard to say he's a straight up "bad shooter". (for a combo forward). Wash rinse and repeat for passing, rebounding, defense, ball handling, etc.

He seems to have decent skills in every area, and good athletic ability, but can't seem to translate that to actual basketball performance.

In theory, I'd like to see why put on some muscle and get a little stronger with the ball. His rebounding ability is one area where he is currently pretty good, and if he can score a couple of garbage baskets per game, it would go a long way to help his offensive efficiency. In theory, he could also guard 3 different positions on the floor, but I'm not sure that skill is particularly required on this roster.

If he could magically learn to shoot 33% or better from 3pt land, he could be a pretty good player, but I don't know that it's going to happen. The stroke looks pretty good, but he's never been very confident with it.

It will be cool to see him under another coach, and see if that changes anything for him. The potential is there, but he's got a ways to go to turn potential into production.

[Nukem2]

My take is that Juan tries way too hard to force tnings and not let the game come to him.  At times, he looks like the proverbial chicken with his head cut off.   

[Lennys Tap]

If he could magically learn to shoot 33% or better from 3pt land, he could be a pretty good player, but I don't know that it's going to happen. The stroke looks pretty good, but he's never been very confident with it.

I think Juan's confidence has always been fragile. As a sophomore on the Elite 8 team he almost always took a couple of 3s early. Good news if he hit one, but if he didn't he tended to disappear.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I think Juan's confidence has always been fragile. As a sophomore on the Elite 8 team he almost always took a couple of 3s early. Good news if he hit one, but if he didn't he tended to disappear.

Ya, agree, which is why I have trouble calling him a "bad" shooter. We've seen him take and make some good shots, and he looks good doing it.

But, he's also hit iron, and then he never even feigns an attempt for the rest of the game. Tough to be a good shooter when you go 0-0 or 0-1 in a lot of games.

I wonder how his practices look.

[bilsu]

While Juan has started many games, he really was not given a lot of playing time for a starter. He often would start and play a few minutes and then sometimes not re-enter the game. I think given a chance to play 20-25 minutes he would show that he is a good, but not great player. I think given the chance and used appropriately (knock on Buzz) he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year.

[Texas Western]

While Juan has started many games, he really was not given a lot of playing time for a starter. He often would start and play a few minutes and then sometimes not re-enter the game. I think given a chance to play 20-25 minutes he would show that he is a good, but not great player. I think given the chance and used appropriately (knock on Buzz) he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year.

I agree with this analysis. I sense he lacks confidence.

[GGGG]

While Juan has started many games, he really was not given a lot of playing time for a starter. He often would start and play a few minutes and then sometimes not re-enter the game. I think given a chance to play 20-25 minutes he would show that he is a good, but not great player. I think given the chance and used appropriately (knock on Buzz) he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year.

Maybe he didn't get those minutes because he's not that good. 

[TJ]

Maybe he didn't get those minutes because he's not that good. 

I agree with this analysis.

[Henry Sugar]

When Juan runs, it looks like he's prancing down the court.

I cannot unsee it.

[GGGG]

It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  

[TJ]

It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  

If "I think given the chance and used appropriately he would come close to having a Trent Lockett senior year" is analysis, then your post is too.  And I tend to agree more with yours in this case.  There wasn't much in what we were able to see last year that indicates that his amazing talent was being held down by Buzz's wicked ways.  I grant that it's possible that he thrives under Wojo, but it's going to take more than just being "used appropriately."

[Texas Western]

It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  

I don't think in the case of Juan  it is case of playing better with more minutes. He started out as a freshman on the right track. He played hard when he got some minutes and had a future.  I think the rotation thing with Buzz is what hurt his progression the last two years. The starting and then disappearing thing makes it very hard to get any momentum. That was the case for many players on the team. For example  It wasn't until later in the season that Todd actually got some consistent minutes. The natural progression last two years would have been for Juan to be Jamil's substitute gradually upping his minutes so by the time he was later in the junior year he would have been a nice player off the bench. 

The good news for him is that he will get some decent playing time in the non conference part of the schedule and hopefully he can be a veteran contributor when the conference season starts. 

[esotericmindguy]

"What to expect from senior Juan Anderson" should be the shortest article written by Paint Touches.

You should expect very little. Comparing him to Lockett is a joke. The only thing he does well is rebound, Lockett came in after leading his previous team in scoring. Watching him on offense is like watching my dog hump the pillow.

Will he play in front of Burton or JJJ? No. So that leaves another 12 MPG season. Maybe less if Cohen plays well. 

[Henry Sugar]

It's not really analysis.  I have no idea if he's that good or not.  It's just the typical Scoop meme "If only <insert player> played more minutes he would be a lot better."

I just can't think of many instances where a player, who didn't have someone good in front of him the year before, suddenly got much better.  

He's not good offensively. Juan's last two years he had an ORtg of 89 and 91 with role-player usage. Even with significant improvement, Juan's ceiling is that of an average offensive role-player. A huge part of the issue is that he can't hold on to the ball (TORate of roughly 23-24% the last two years). However, if he protected the ball better, his FG% is still poor.

It is highly unlikely he can increase both his usage and his efficiency.

Having said that, Juan can be good (not great) defensively. His defensive rebounding percentage is over 18% and his steal percentage was over 4% last year. Both are solid but not exceptional.

Juan fills a decent role defensively, especially on a team limited for size, but he really should not shoot much.

[tower912]

Nobody on this board wanted him on the floor last year and now the common theme is that he was misused by Buzz.    

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Maybe he didn't get those minutes because he's not that good. 

This is likely correct.

You have to produce to get minutes.

However, I have to wonder what he looks like in practice. Maybe I'm just being an optimist, but I still see potential to be a solid player. The physical skills seem to be there, but it hasn't translated into actual basketball production.

I don't think he's as far away as his stats make it look... but maybe I'm just being a homer.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

He's not good offensively. Juan's last two years he had an ORtg of 89 and 91 with role-player usage. Even with significant improvement, Juan's ceiling is that of an average offensive role-player. A huge part of the issue is that he can't hold on to the ball (TORate of roughly 23-24% the last two years). However, if he protected the ball better, his FG% is still poor.

It is highly unlikely he can increase both his usage and his efficiency.

Having said that, Juan can be good (not great) defensively. His defensive rebounding percentage is over 18% and his steal percentage was over 4% last year. Both are solid but not exceptional.

Juan fills a decent role defensively, especially on a team limited for size, but he really should not shoot much.

Are their examples of guys who have increase usage and efficiency in the same season? Maybe Jake? Vander? Jerel? Jae?

[Texas Western]

Nobody on this board wanted him on the floor last year and now the common theme is that he was misused by Buzz.    

It is July a time for everyone to be optimistic.

[hdog1017]

I expect a lot of missed shots

[muwarrior69]

Maybe Wojo can show these kids what they have been doing wrong and correct it. Perhaps all Juan needs is some encouragement and confidence to show his athletic talents. We'll see soon enough.

[MarquetteDano]

I think one strength for Juan is rebounding.  Given what we lost in terms of size, Juan and Steve T. will really need to board well.   If Juan can average 5 boards a game this season that will be a real boon to our rebounding.

[tower912]

I think one strength for Juan is rebounding.  Given what we lost in terms of size, Juan and Steve T. will really need to board well.   If Juan can average 5 boards a game this season that will be a real BOONE to our rebounding.

fify

[bilsu]

I think one strength for Juan is rebounding.  Given what we lost in terms of size, Juan and Steve T. will really need to board well.   If Juan can average 5 boards a game this season that will be a real boon to our rebounding.

I think 5 boards a game, if he is playing significant minutes would be a disappointment. I think Derrick Wilson would average 5 boards a game, if you started him at small forward and Juan should be able out rebound Derrick.

[MarquetteDano]

I think 5 boards a game, if he is playing significant minutes would be a disappointment. I think Derrick Wilson would average 5 boards a game, if you started him at small forward and Juan should be able out rebound Derrick.

I guess I don't expect him to play huge minutes.  He averaged 3.3 boards in 13.5 minutes.  If you figure he averages 18 minutes I think 5 boards would be better than his average per minute played last year.

[tower912]

He is going to get at least 20 mpg until Luke gets back.   Unless you think that Taylor is going to be able to play >30mpg at the 5 and Burton >30mpg at the 4.   

[Henry Sugar]

Are there examples of guys who have increase usage and efficiency in the same season? Maybe Jake? Vander? Jerel? Jae?

Sure, it happens, but not a lot. Here are the players you listed, except for Jake Thomas. I'm not doing his numbers.

I haven't done any real analysis, but my general thought is that players will either improve their usage or their efficiency but typically not both.

[bilsu]

I would not expect more than 25 minutes a game out of Taylor or Burton. Even if they play more, Juan is the best option at small forward. Unitl Fischer is eligible Taylor, Burton and Anderson's potential minutes will only be limited by foul trouble and conditioning.

[MU82]

He is going to get at least 20 mpg until Luke gets back.   Unless you think that Taylor is going to be able to play >30mpg at the 5 and Burton >30mpg at the 4.   

Yep. Juan is going to get his chance to show what he can do with extended minutes, at least during the non-con sked.

So we'll have our answer on what to expect from him as a senior by mid-December.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Sure, it happens, but not a lot. Here are the players you listed, except for Jake Thomas. I'm not doing his numbers.

I haven't done any real analysis, but my general thought is that players will either improve their usage or their efficiency but typically not both.

Thanks Sugar!

I guess off the top of my head I think a guy like Juan could improve both because his current role and minutes were so sporadic. It's hard to define what he was supposed to be doing. I assume that's not just coaching, but a lot of that was on Juan himself.

If he improves enough to get more minutes, it will likely be because he's more efficient.

Thoughtfully, I'm just hoping Juan is a bit of a late bloomer and think he could be a good 20mpg player. He's skills pass the eye test, but his production certainly hasn't.

[Marqevans]

I think Juan's confidence has always been fragile. As a sophomore on the Elite 8 team he almost always took a couple of 3s early. Good news if he hit one, but if he didn't he tended to disappear.

I agree he misses too many easy put backs and lay ups.  It has to be confidence that is lacking.

[79Warrior]

"What to expect from senior Juan Anderson" should be the shortest article written by Paint Touches.

You should expect very little. Comparing him to Lockett is a joke. The only thing he does well is rebound, Lockett came in after leading his previous team in scoring. Watching him on offense is like watching my dog hump the pillow.

Will he play in front of Burton or JJJ? No. So that leaves another 12 MPG season. Maybe less if Cohen plays well. 

Agree. Lockett a far superior player. Juan is a role player who will give you a few rebounds coming off the bench.

[bilsu]

Agree. Lockett a far superior player. Juan is a role player who will give you a few rebounds coming off the bench.

Most people on these boards did not think Lockett was very good (despite of Buzz saying how important was) until he almost made an NBA roster.

[Nukem2]

Most people on these boards did not think Lockett was very good (despite of Buzz saying how important was) until he almost made an NBA roster.

I think most were very appreciative of Lockett's contributions, though he had a slow start at MU due to turnover issues.  But, he was solid for the BE and the NCAAs.

[MarquetteDano]

I think most were very appreciative of Lockett's contributions, though he had a slow start at MU due to turnover issues.  But, he was solid for the BE and the NCAAs.

I guess.  I seem to recall a lot of people clamoring for Mayo over Lockett.  But maybe that was only a few people.

[Nukem2]

I guess.  I seem to recall a lot of people clamoring for Mayo over Lockett.  But maybe that was only a few people.

Hmmm...Mayo had an eligibility issue that first semester....

[WarriorFan]

It always seemed to me that Anderson was over-thinking.   Maybe he had Brent on the brain.  Could be that a new coach does wonders for his effectiveness.  I never saw any flaws with the physical side of his game, just the confidence.

[tower912]

I guess.  I seem to recall a lot of people clamoring for Mayo over Lockett.  But maybe that was only a few people.

I assumed from what I saw of Mayo as a frosh and the way that Lockett was playing early in the year that Mayo would be a starter once he regained his eligibility, and said so repeatedly.  Lockett got more comfortable and Todd was unable to improve on his freshman year performance and even regressed a little.   So I was wrong, but I admitted it and became a Lockett fan by the end of the year.   

[MU82]

Most people on these boards did not think Lockett was very good (despite of Buzz saying how important was) until he almost made an NBA roster.

I will freely admit that I was not thrilled with Lockett until well into the conference season. After a rough start, he played his way into my heart!

[MarquetteDano]

Hmmm...Mayo had an eligibility issue that first semester....

Lockett vs. Mayo thread:

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=34590.0

[Knight Commission]

Juan Anderson ~ Joe Fulce

[Sunbelt15]

Hope he comes back with an improved outside game like he had his sophomore year.

[TJ]

Juan Anderson ~ Joe Fulce

Joe Fulce had extreme injury issues that severely limited his potential.  The comparison is not valid.

[NersEllenson]

I assumed from what I saw of Mayo as a frosh and the way that Lockett was playing early in the year that Mayo would be a starter once he regained his eligibility, and said so repeatedly.  Lockett got more comfortable and Todd was unable to improve on his freshman year performance and even regressed a little.   So I was wrong, but I admitted it and became a Lockett fan by the end of the year.   

Your analysis on Todd was correct as compared to Lockett.  Lockett became a decent player by the time Big East Tourney and NCAA play came around...but...if you want to look at their production side by side when given similar minute opportunity - Lockett's senior year, to Todd's junior year - Todd blows Lockett away in virtually everything, other than rebounding.  However, Todd turns the ball over at a similar rate, yet is much less foul prone.  Mayo never could get out of Buzz's doghouse until the last 10 games of the season last year, and it then became evident to those who couldn't see it previously - all the talent on display - once given consistent minutes and an ability to play through some mistakes.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&i=1&p1=trent-lockett

[hdog1017]

Joe Fulce had extreme injury issues that severely limited his potential.  The comparison is not valid.

I agree TJ.  JA has bad at basketball issues. 

[tower912]

Your analysis on Todd was correct as compared to Lockett.  Lockett became a decent player by the time Big East Tourney and NCAA play came around...but...if you want to look at their production side by side when given similar minute opportunity - Lockett's senior year, to Todd's junior year - Todd blows Lockett away in virtually everything, other than rebounding.  However, Todd turns the ball over at a similar rate, yet is much less foul prone.  Mayo never could get out of Buzz's doghouse until the last 10 games of the season last year, and it then became evident to those who couldn't see it previously - all the talent on display - once given consistent minutes and an ability to play through some mistakes.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&i=1&p1=trent-lockett

Watch "Frozen".   Do what the big song tells you.   

[TJ]

Watch "Frozen".   Do what the big song tells you.   

Maybe Buzz left a note in his desk for the next coach telling him not to play Todd.  Ners can't let down his guard now... always be vigilant.