What's going on at the pro-am?

[🏀]

Heard all MU players, except Burton, did not participate this weekend.

[The Lens]

Must not be a point of emphasis with Wojo.

[jesmu84]

Per twitter, and a youtube vid, Burton had 47, including a sick one-handed 360 reverse dunk, in one game.

https://twitter.com/mubbnation/status/491051635523592193

[NotBuzzWilliams]

I heard Duane scored 79

[GB Warrior]

It's great that they get to play against good talent and all, but I'm not a fan of this simply for how unstructured it is. It's a great place to undo all of the lessons-learned and dos' and don'ts taught by coaches. Basically, the home run derby of the Marquette offseason.

[77ncaachamps]

It's great that they get to play against good talent and all, but I'm not a fan of this simply for how unstructured it is. It's a great place to undo all of the lessons-learned and dos' and don'ts taught by coaches. Basically, the home run derby of the Marquette offseason.

But it's almost like, "Guys, get the run and gun ballhog out of your system."

I understand where you're coming from, but there's more structure there: guys come from D-1/professional clubs, so running sets may NOT be there, they can read and react accordingly.

[keefe]

But it's almost like, "Guys, get the run and gun ballhog out of your system."

I understand where you're coming from, but there's more structure there: guys come from D-1/professional clubs, so running sets may NOT be there, they can read and react accordingly.

It's great until Burton wrecks his knee playing street ball.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Per twitter, and a youtube vid, Burton had 47, including a sick one-handed 360 reverse dunk, in one game.

https://twitter.com/mubbnation/status/491051635523592193

That dunk was disgusting. Awesomely disgusting. I also liked seeing Burton hit a few treys in there. If that is part of his offensive arsenal...he will be really special

[NersEllenson]

That dunk was disgusting. Awesomely disgusting. I also liked seeing Burton hit a few treys in there. If that is part of his offensive arsenal...he will be really special

Well...Deonte was 4 of 8 from 3 point land last season...think he's got that in his game....yet when you can bully and get your way to the basket ANYTIME you want - what's the point of settling for a 3?  Probably the bigger reason why he only shot 8 of them last season.  He's going to be a stud.  Best potential in a player at MU since Wade.  Man among boys.

[🏀]

Well...Deonte was 4 of 8 from 3 point land last season...think he's got that in his game....yet when you can bully and get your way to the basket ANYTIME you want - what's the point of settling for a 3?  Probably the bigger reason why he only shot 8 of them last season.  He's going to be a stud.  Best potential in a player at MU since Wade.  Man among boys.

A lot of potential, but Jamil probably had more than Burton.

[Dawson Rental]

Well...Deonte was 4 of 8 from 3 point land last season...think he's got that in his game....yet when you can bully and get your way to the basket ANYTIME you want - what's the point of settling for a 3?  Probably the bigger reason why he only shot 8 of them last season.  He's going to be a stud.  Best potential in a player at MU since Wade.  Man among boys.

An extra point?

[GGGG]

It's great that they get to play against good talent and all, but I'm not a fan of this simply for how unstructured it is. It's a great place to undo all of the lessons-learned and dos' and don'ts taught by coaches. Basically, the home run derby of the Marquette offseason.

They're going to be playing ball somewhere.  Might as well do it in a semi-structured environment like this one against higher level talent.

[augoman]

Agree, Sultan.  Better to play in the 'shootemup' league against other quality players than play horse with your brother.

[NersEllenson]

A lot of potential, but Jamil probably had more than Burton.

I tend to think Jamil's "potential" has long been overrated by many.  He looks the part...and has nice measurables....yet....he isn't overly basketball athletic.  He plays very upright/erect...doesn't have great body lean, nor a very explosive first step.  Rarely could Jamil do much off the dribble.  Eventually the "potential" needs to be realized and show up...and in my view...it showed up...he got what he could out of his ability.  Of course he would have put up better numbers last season if he wasn't paired with such a limited backcourt.

Deonte in my view has a lot more potential than Jamil.  Much more physical...lower center of gravity...plays with great body lean, can get low to the floor...and has a far more explosive first step...and a consistent ability to beat defenders off the dribble.

[GGGG]

I think Jamil's potential has a lot to do with his lofty national rankings early on in his high school career, which IMO has warped a lot of fan's thoughts about what he can do and what he can turn into. 

Jamil finished his high school career as the 94th rated prospect by Rivals.  Now if he would have come to MU by *rising up to* that level, and produced the same numbers, we probably would have been satisfied with his production.  But of course we think of the guy who I believe was a top 10 guy as a sophomore, and judge his performance through that prism, and are disappointed.

In the end, Burton's final rating was higher than Jamil's.  I think Burton has the potential to have more impact on the collegiate level than Jamil did.

[We R Final Four]

    Of course he would have put up better numbers last season if he wasn't paired with such a limited backcourt.

So close Ners---almost an entire post without a dig at DWill and Jake----yet couldn't quite do it.

[NersEllenson]

So close Ners---almost an entire post without a dig at DWill and Jake----yet couldn't quite do it.

Well played.  Got a legitimate LOL out of that.  I'll see what I can do...

[River rat]

I think Jamil's potential has a lot to do with his lofty national rankings early on in his high school career, which IMO has warped a lot of fan's thoughts about what he can do and what he can turn into. 

Jamil finished his high school career as the 94th rated prospect by Rivals.  Now if he would have come to MU by *rising up to* that level, and produced the same numbers, we probably would have been satisfied with his production.  But of course we think of the guy who I believe was a top 10 guy as a sophomore, and judge his performance through that prism, and are disappointed.

In the end, Burton's final rating was higher than Jamil's.  I think Burton has the potential to have more impact on the collegiate level than Jamil did.

potential was never the issue with Wilson it was his mental makeup/toughness.  Fell into the old looks like Tarzan plays like Jane category.

[Texas Western]

I tend to think Jamil's "potential" has long been overrated by many.  He looks the part...and has nice measurables....yet....he isn't overly basketball athletic.  He plays very upright/erect...doesn't have great body lean, nor a very explosive first step.  Rarely could Jamil do much off the dribble.  Eventually the "potential" needs to be realized and show up...and in my view...it showed up...he got what he could out of his ability.  Of course he would have put up better numbers last season if he wasn't paired with such a limited backcourt.

Deonte in my view has a lot more potential than Jamil.  Much more physical...lower center of gravity...plays with great body lean, can get low to the floor...and has a far more explosive first step...and a consistent ability to beat defenders off the dribble.

Agreed and also I would add he was most comfortable being the third person on the team. I thought he played the best in 2011-12 with Jae an DJO as the primaries .

[GGGG]

potential was never the issue with Wilson it was his mental makeup/toughness.  Fell into the old looks like Tarzan plays like Jane category.

I never thought he looked like Tarzan. 

[Galway Eagle]

Agreed and also I would add he was most comfortable being the third person on the team. I thought he played the best in 2011-12 with Jae an DJO as the primaries .

Early in that season when we still had Otule I'd agree (pause for how what that team could've been if he hadn't gotten injured  ) but I think in his natural position he was most effective playing off Vander. 

[77ncaachamps]

potential was never the issue with Wilson it was his mental makeup/toughness.  Fell into the old looks like Tarzan plays like Jane category.

Yup. Kids looks great in highlights and on paper.

But he lacks the type "A" personality and killer persona.
Not that that's a bad thing, but it's rare to get a player who lacks the takeover skill (and can execute it) in the League.

However, he is a superb complementary player. He filled the role well with DJO, Jae, Davante, Vander, and Trent.