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Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« on: April 21, 2014, 09:09:12 PM »
No. 2 on list of head coaching openings this offseason.   Seems a fair assessment to me.  I think an argument could be made we're a better job than Missouri or vice versa, but definitely some strong respect toward what's been built here by players, coaches, fans, administration over the years.  I don't think a credible case could be made for anyone else being a better job. 

Only surprise to me is Houston no. 3.  I get they are in the heart of big time recruiting territory, but the state of Texas has so many high level D-1 programs.  After that, I don't really get what makes them so strong, questionable conference, weak history since the early 80's.   Fellow AAC member South Florida seems to have more upside to me. 

Think a case could have been made for Washington St cracking the list at least too.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/04/21/open-ncaa-coaching-jobs-missouri-marquette-houston/

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 09:22:00 PM »
Which begs the question, if we're so good, why oh why did the Hillbilly leave?

Guess even though Jed Clampett was in Beverly Hills, he longed for the simple backward life of the Ozarks.

Same for the Hillbilly. Good program, good school, too good for the Hillbilly.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 09:22:47 PM »
Mizzou is NOT a better job than Marquette

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 09:25:06 PM »
No. 2 on list of head coaching openings this offseason.   Seems a fair assessment to me.  I think an argument could be made we're a better job than Missouri or vice versa, but definitely some strong respect toward what's been built here by players, coaches, fans, administration over the years.  I don't think a credible case could be made for anyone else being a better job. 

Only surprise to me is Houston no. 3.  I get they are in the heart of big time recruiting territory, but the state of Texas has so many high level D-1 programs.  After that, I don't really get what makes them so strong, questionable conference, weak history since the early 80's.   Fellow AAC member South Florida seems to have more upside to me. 

Think a case could have been made for Washington St cracking the list at least too.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/04/21/open-ncaa-coaching-jobs-missouri-marquette-houston/

Phi Slamma Jamma, 'nuf said. Lot of people want them to be good again but the reality is they get more respect than they deserve at this point.
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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 09:26:15 PM »
Phi Slamma Jamma, 'nuf said. Lot of people want them to be good again but the reality is they get more respect than they deserve at this point.

Exactly, didn't Tom Penders very briefly have them on the upswing again a few years ago- did he maybe even take them to an NCAA appearance?

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 09:30:20 PM »
Exactly, didn't Tom Penders very briefly have them on the upswing again a few years ago- did he maybe even take them to an NCAA appearance?
I seem to recollect that, made the tournament a couple times maybe.
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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 09:32:14 PM »
Mizzou is NOT a better job than Marquette

In the old Big East, I agree with you.  In the new Big East, debatable.  I think the new Big East will prove to be a strong conference, but there's legitimate question marks right now.   Conference affiliation isn't everything in comparing programs, but it's right up there among the top x-factors.  The SEC while generally very weak this year, still made up half the Final Four.  Hard to ignore that.  No doubt that gets recruits attention.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2014, 09:34:06 PM »
I did not see VT on the list

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2014, 09:34:55 PM »
Mizzou is NOT a better job than Marquette

This. I'm from the KC area and just no way at all. They've never been able to lockdown St. Louis and Missouri overall, never made a Final Four, and their basketball legacy is almost entirely tied to KU. There is A LOT of worry that the SEC is going to kill the desire for hoops there as attendance apparently was way down this year and it's not looking up anymore.
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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 09:36:11 PM »
This. I'm from the KC area and just no way at all. They've never been able to lockdown St. Louis and Missouri overall, never made a Final Four, and their basketball legacy is almost entirely tied to KU. There is A LOT of worry that the SEC is going to kill the desire for hoops there as attendance apparently was way down this year and it's not looking up anymore.

Interesting take.  One thing about the SEC, football will always be king. 

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2014, 09:36:54 PM »
I did not see VT on the list

#7- ahead of BC, which I don't agree with. 

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2014, 09:37:43 PM »
In the old Big East, I agree with you.  In the new Big East, debatable.  I think the new Big East will prove to be a strong conference, but there's legitimate question marks right now.   Conference affiliation isn't everything in comparing programs, but it's right up there among the top x-factors.  The SEC while generally very weak this year, still made up half the Final Four.  Hard to ignore that.  No doubt that gets recruits attention.

But really outside UK, UF, and Vandy there just isn't much interest in the SEC overall for hoops. Could argue Tennessee and Arkansas (been a long time since Richardson now), but football still overshadows everything. Word is Mizzou is already feeling a dearth of excitement since they moved to the football obsessed conference. Maybe the fans have been burnt out a lot over football excitement and visiting new campuses, but not having Kansas on the schedule is slowly going to hurt their desire for hoops. Beating KU drove so much of their motivation.
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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2014, 09:45:45 PM »
Time after time I keep reading how not having an AD is hurting MU.

Can it be that damn hard to find someone to fill the position? Jeeeez.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2014, 10:24:37 PM »
Time after time I keep reading how not having an AD is hurting MU.

Can it be that damn hard to find someone to fill the position? Jeeeez.

I wish people would stop saying we have no A.D. We do have an A.D., albeit short term, but the guy's been at Marquette for over 20 years. The office isn't empty.
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SI Ranks Coaching Jobs Available This Season
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2014, 01:13:41 AM »
Marquette #2

Virginia Tech #7

I wonder if the ranks will change after Wojo and Buzz have been on the job for a few years?

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/04/21/open-ncaa-coaching-jobs-missouri-marquette-houston/?eref=sihp

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2014, 01:14:51 AM »
Sorry, I missed the other thread.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2014, 01:17:13 AM »
In the old Big East, I agree with you.  In the new Big East, debatable.  I think the new Big East will prove to be a strong conference, but there's legitimate question marks right now.   Conference affiliation isn't everything in comparing programs, but it's right up there among the top x-factors.  The SEC while generally very weak this year, still made up half the Final Four.  Hard to ignore that.  No doubt that gets recruits attention.

Didn't we just hire away one of their assistants? I wonder what he thinks?

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2014, 05:52:10 AM »
And the Big East is a winnable league every year. [/quote]

Subliminal for "weak league".

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2014, 06:43:38 AM »
Time after time I keep reading how not having an AD is hurting MU.

Can it be that damn hard to find someone to fill the position? Jeeeez.

sure could...which would tell you the BoT and Pres don't feel it's that big of a deal.  obviously wojo didn't mind...not sure if it cost us a higher priority candidate or not.  time will tell with the success of the two new bball coaches.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2014, 07:08:58 AM »
sure could...which would tell you the BoT and Pres don't feel it's that big of a deal.  obviously wojo didn't mind...not sure if it cost us a higher priority candidate or not.  time will tell with the success of the two new bball coaches.

MU wanted the new President in place first so he can help hire the AD (and Provost, director of admissions, B-School Dean, etc.).  We should have many of these filled before school starts in the fall.

And no it's not that big a deal.  The reporter needed a "con" for the MU job and is like all reporters he is very lazy.  So after a 30 second google search he noted that Brent mentioned.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2014, 07:42:52 AM »
#7- ahead of BC, which I don't agree with.  

VT is a better job than BC.  And if you look at their last few coaching searches, and the quality of candidates they both attracted, I think coaches agree.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2014, 07:43:50 AM »
I think this article would support that statement.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10818446/central-missouri-kim-anderson-finalists-missouri-tigers-job


Kim Anderson is a good coach.  This is pretty much like UW hiring Bo Ryan - former assistant who found a great deal of success at lower levels and hoping it translates to D1.

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2014, 07:47:52 AM »

Kim Anderson is a good coach.  This is pretty much like UW hiring Bo Ryan - former assistant who found a great deal of success at lower levels and hoping it translates to D1.

You see Bo Ryan - I see Mike Deane.  Who knows, what will happen it is a risk right?  I would say the fan-base would not be thrilled with going from Mike Anderson to Kim Anderson in short period of years.

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Re: Some love for MU from Sports Illustrated
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2014, 07:54:00 AM »
Didn't we just hire away one of their assistants? I wonder what he thinks?

And didn't we hire Chew from Mizzou too?  Two Mizzou assistants in three years to Marquette.