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Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« on: April 19, 2014, 04:50:55 PM »
Curiosity led me to compare MU and UW hooking in Wisconsin Mr. Basketball winners.

UW (9)
2012 Dekker
2007 Nankivil (co-)
2003 Butch
2001 Harris
2000 Wilkinson
1995 Okey
1992 Timmerman
1986 Portmann
1982 Olson

MU (6*)
2013 Fischer
2009 Maymon
2007 Christopherson (co-)
2005 Matthews
1993 Pieper
1990 Key

*Marshall Williams (1999) committed to MU but never played. He enrolled and reportedly took classes before  transferring to Vincennes JC before the season started.


Notable WI Mr. Basketball winners who committed elsewhere
1988 Bennett (UWGB)
1983 Wolf (UNC)
1991 Rayford (Kansas)
2014 Looney (UCLA)

WI Miss Basketball comparison is no contest: UW 10, MU 3.
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2014, 05:51:27 PM »
Okey, Timmerman and Portman did nothing at Wisconsin. It pretty much evened out talent wise.

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2014, 05:59:48 PM »
Curiosity led me to compare MU and UW hooking in Wisconsin Mr. Basketball winners.

UW (9)
2012 Dekker
2007 Nankivil (co-)
2003 Butch
2001 Harris
2000 Wilkinson
1995 Okey
1992 Timmerman
1986 Portmann
1982 Olson

MU (6*)
2013 Fischer
2009 Maymon
2007 Christopherson (co-)
2005 Matthews
1993 Pieper
1990 Key

*Marshall Williams (1999) committed to MU but never played. He enrolled and reportedly took classes before  transferring to Vincennes JC before the season started.


Notable WI Mr. Basketball winners who committed elsewhere
1988 Bennett (UWGB)
1983 Wolf (UNC)
1991 Rayford (Kansas)
2014 Looney (UCLA)

WI Miss Basketball comparison is no contest: UW 10, MU 3.

I want Marshall Williams included in Marquette's total.  Call it a catch and release.
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2014, 06:43:46 PM »
Okey, Timmerman and Portman did nothing at Wisconsin. It pretty much evened out talent wise.


Maymon and Christopherson didn't even finish at MU, or do much when they were here. & Fischer hasn't even played yet.

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2014, 06:52:54 PM »

Maymon and Christopherson didn't even finish at MU, or do much when they were here. & Fischer hasn't even played yet.

Maymon and SC didn't want to stay with Buzz.   Fischer got the benefit of Buzz not wanting to stay with him.

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2014, 06:57:18 PM »
Wasn't Vander Blue a POY in WI? If not, who beat him out for it?

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2014, 07:00:14 PM »
Wasn't Vander Blue a POY in WI? If not, who beat him out for it?

TJ Bray?

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2014, 07:48:20 PM »
Yes--Princeton.

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2014, 07:49:44 PM »
Maymon and SC didn't want to stay with Buzz.   Fischer got the benefit of Buzz not wanting to stay with him.

Not sure about Maymon...

In fact, it could be argued that the Maymon recruitment was indicative of a new sheriff in town


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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2014, 07:50:26 PM »
Not sure about Maymon...

A Maymon....

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2014, 07:55:23 PM »


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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2014, 07:56:32 PM »
Since MU 2003 FF (so starting in 2004) MU leads 4 to 2 (5 going elsewhere)

Does Bucky's FF run this year change this trend?

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2014, 08:25:42 PM »
We definitely had the recruiting momentum in the state, until some traditionals came through recently that are pretty good (Decker and that pg).

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2014, 08:27:46 PM »
We definitely had the recruiting momentum in the state, until some traditionals came through recently that are pretty good (Decker and that pg).

I'm not ready to anoint Koenig as anything.  He had one nice half in the Final Four.  Before that?  He averaged 3 points per game.  He will be fine, but he will not be a world beater.  Bo will slow his game down and he will average 10 and 5 for them as a junior and senior.  Again, fine, but not a world beater.
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2014, 08:31:53 PM »
Will be interesting to see if Wojo can continue to get the inner city talent,  getting Duane, Burton, Vander, Maymon, McKay type commits.  Obviously they didn't all work out but we were attracting the top inner-city wisco talent.

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2014, 08:38:48 PM »

Maymon and Christopherson didn't even finish at MU, or do much when they were here. & Fischer hasn't even played yet.

Timmerman and Okey both transferrred out of WI.

True about Fischer. He's practiced but hasn't made an appearance officially in a game.


Only 3 were drafted in the NBA draft from the list. Looney may make it 4.
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2014, 11:21:54 PM »

*Marshall Williams (1999) committed to MU but never played. He enrolled and reportedly took classes before  transferring to Vincennes JC before the season started.


I believe Marshall Williams started at NC State, then committed to Marquette but didn't want to sit out a year so he went to Vincennes, then to UW-Green Bay for like 15 minutes, then an NAIA school in Kentucky.

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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2014, 01:23:46 AM »
I believe Marshall Williams started at NC State, then committed to Marquette but didn't want to sit out a year so he went to Vincennes, then to UW-Green Bay for like 15 minutes, then an NAIA school in Kentucky.

That's correct.

I didn't mention it here, just the commitment to transfer after nc state
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2014, 01:36:37 AM »
Curiosity led me to compare MU and UW hooking in Wisconsin Mr. Basketball winners.

UW (9)
2012 Dekker
2007 Nankivil (co-)
2003 Butch
2001 Harris
2000 Wilkinson
1995 Okey
1992 Timmerman
1986 Portmann
1982 Olson

MU (6*)
2013 Fischer
2009 Maymon
2007 Christopherson (co-)
2005 Matthews
1993 Pieper
1990 Key

*Marshall Williams (1999) committed to MU but never played. He enrolled and reportedly took classes before  transferring to Vincennes JC before the season started.


Notable WI Mr. Basketball winners who committed elsewhere
1988 Bennett (UWGB)
1983 Wolf (UNC)
1991 Rayford (Kansas)
2014 Looney (UCLA)

WI Miss Basketball comparison is no contest: UW 10, MU 3.

You could make a good case that Wesley Matthews has had the best pro career of these guys.
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2014, 12:53:42 PM »
You could make a good case that Wesley Matthews has had the best pro career of these guys.

Which is kinda sad considering the number of WI players in the NBA.

Born in WI vs playing HS bkb in WI are two distinct things.
So the following is a list of WI-born NBA/ABAers. Interesting list: http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=US&state=WI


Most recent list of NBAers born in WI:
Vander
Tony Mitchell
Ray McCallum
Buycks
Diante Garrett
Jerry Smith
Kyle Weaber
Marcus Landry
Devin Harris
Travis Diener
Reece Gaines
Caron Butler
Chris Mihm
Mike Wilks
Alex Scales
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2014, 06:52:59 PM »
Okey, Timmerman and Portman did nothing at Wisconsin. It pretty much evened out talent wise.


Sam Okey was the freshman of the year in the B10 and was second team all conference both years he was at Wisconsin.  Plenty of talent, but was a head case, had academic issues and got injured.

He's now a hairstylist in Wausau.  Not kidding.

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2014, 07:00:29 PM »

He's now a hairstylist in Wausau.  Not kidding.






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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2014, 07:45:31 PM »

"Sam Okey...was a head case. He's now a hairstylist in Wausau."

Why do I think that's funny?
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Re: Wisconsin Mr. Basketball
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2014, 07:53:23 PM »
TJ Bray?
TJ had a great Ivy League career.  2nd leading scorer in the league this year.  Scoring, assists, rebounds, did it all.

I'm not sure what he's going to do.  May play overseas.  May coach.  May make a ton of dough in business.

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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2014, 08:22:17 PM »
TJ had a great Ivy League career.  2nd leading scorer in the league this year.  Scoring, assists, rebounds, did it all.

I'm not sure what he's going to do.  May play overseas.  May coach.  May make a ton of dough in business.

Good numbers for a college career too. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/52716/tj-bray

Ouch, dad was an MU alum?! http://www.goprincetontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205014281
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