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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2014, 11:54:59 AM »
Without teams sagging to clog the lane, Gardner would have been a BE POY candidate and we would have lived up to preseason hype. I felt the worst for Gardner this year, he didn't get a chance to show off his unique offensive skill set.

Agreed.  DG was badly impacted by Brett's offensive scheming.
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2014, 12:00:57 PM »
Agreed.  DG was badly impacted by Brett's offensive scheming.

Don't think it was scheme so much as riding a player that was offensively bankrupt at PG for ~35 mpg making it exponentially easier to guard Gardner. The PT allotment and recruiting miss at the position are Buzz' fault though.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2014, 12:05:05 PM »
Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.

Indeed, this is a very positive report on Davante and I'm glad he did well. But do take note of that last sentence. Despite his outstanding showing, nobody with any knowledge would predict an NBA future for an unathletic, too-short big man who doesn't rebound well. I agree with Draft Express that Davante could be successful in Europe.
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2014, 12:51:29 PM »
Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.

Indeed, this is a very positive report on Davante and I'm glad he did well. But do take note of that last sentence. Despite his outstanding showing, nobody with any knowledge would predict an NBA future for an unathletic, too-short big man who doesn't rebound well. I agree with Draft Express that Davante could be successful in Europe.

For sure. He's going to eat and eat well overseas. He just needs to stay healthy and focused.

Heck, if Dwight Burke is still playing abroad, Davante can!
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2014, 01:33:18 PM »
If Gardner is 288 now, and he lost all this weight since he arrived at Marquette, what did he top out at as a Frosh or a recruit? Granted, he lost weight then gained muscle so 288 compared to whatever he was doesn't really give him the praise he deserves.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2014, 02:39:56 PM »
Don't think it was scheme so much as riding a player that was offensively bankrupt at PG for ~35 mpg making it exponentially easier to guard Gardner. The PT allotment and recruiting miss at the position are Buzz' fault though.

I don't disagree with anything you said.  However, I said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".   ;)
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2014, 02:52:48 PM »
Agreed.  DG was badly impacted by Brett's offensive scheming.
Exactly. Buzz actually had no offensive scheming, other than Derrick dribbling around the perimeter while his man double teamed the post. best exemplified by the 12 year old daughter of a fan who the Dad said knows absolutely nothing about the game saying, "Daddy, why isn't anybody guarding #12?" That should be the tag line for all the slurpers.
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2014, 03:30:28 PM »
I don't disagree with anything you said.  However, I said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".   ;)

Haha okay I get what you're saying now

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2014, 03:54:31 PM »
Exactly. Buzz actually had no offensive scheming, other than Derrick dribbling around the perimeter while his man double teamed the post. best exemplified by the 12 year old daughter of a fan who the Dad said knows absolutely nothing about the game saying, "Daddy, why isn't anybody guarding #12?" That should be the tag line for all the slurpers.


A swing and a miss, strike two.  We'll try again.  He said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2014, 07:28:55 PM »
If Gardner is 288 now, and he lost all this weight since he arrived at Marquette, what did he top out at as a Frosh or a recruit? Granted, he lost weight then gained muscle so 288 compared to whatever he was doesn't really give him the praise he deserves.

I think I remember hearing that Gardner weighed 330 in High School.
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2014, 08:21:44 AM »
Davante Gardner, 6-8, Center, Marquette – 18 points, 3 rebounds, 6-10 FG, 1-2 3P – Gardner simply knows how to score with his terrific feet, hands and touch. Even though he's undersized, not particularly athletic and somewhat limited as a rebounder and defender for the NBA level, he is very skilled and should make a strong career in Europe.

Indeed, this is a very positive report on Davante and I'm glad he did well. But do take note of that last sentence. Despite his outstanding showing, nobody with any knowledge would predict an NBA future for an unathletic, too-short big man who doesn't rebound well. I agree with Draft Express that Davante could be successful in Europe.

I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2014, 08:26:41 AM »
He'd be better off as a undrafted free agent so he can pick his team.


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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2014, 09:06:12 AM »
A swing and a miss, strike two.  We'll try again.  He said, "scheming".  Not "scheme".
Sorry, only strike 1 as I did use scheming.
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2014, 10:24:34 AM »
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

Want to put a wager on that?
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2014, 10:33:42 AM »
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.
Draft pick?  Unlikely.  But i could see a team signing him as an undrafted free agent to see what they can get

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2014, 11:07:32 AM »
Would love it if DG ends up on an NBA roster. I just don't see it happening. There's not many 6'6" post players that aren't athletic. And by not many, I'm guessing none. If love for him to be an exception though.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2014, 12:05:46 PM »
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2014, 12:23:37 PM »
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2014, 12:32:35 PM »
If Gardner is 288 now, and he lost all this weight since he arrived at Marquette, what did he top out at as a Frosh or a recruit? Granted, he lost weight then gained muscle so 288 compared to whatever he was doesn't really give him the praise he deserves.

He was listed at 295 in a Rosiak article from when he was signed.

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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2014, 01:35:23 PM »
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2014, 01:39:06 PM »
I predict DG as an NBA second rounder because he is a scoring machine and a foul trouble extraordinaire.

Yes, those are the positives but he struggles to run the court, challenge defenders around the rim, and cover the ground from the key to the 3 pt.

But the acting when fouled is definitely NBA level. ;)
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Re: A reason to be more impressed with Gardner....
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2014, 07:51:03 AM »
Gardner will get a look from an NBA team this fall, likely as an undrafted free agent...which could be his best way to make a team.

He's too uniquely talented for an NBA team to not take a look at, and put him on the court with their guys..and see how he fares.  He's been able to score at one of the most efficient rates in college basketball every year from freshman season to senior year.  Some team will want to se if that can translate to NBA and how he'll defend NBA caliber players..
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Davante Gardner named MVP of Portsmouth Invitational
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2014, 05:37:44 PM »
Didn't see this posted anywhere, sorry if I missed it. Also, both Gardner and Wilson made the all-star team, making MU the only team with two players on the all-star team.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/20/marquettes-davante-gardner-named-mvp-of-portsmouth-invitational-video/

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Re: Davante Gardner named MVP of Portsmouth Invitational
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2014, 07:22:33 PM »
Oh it has been.

The news was in here: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43849.0;all
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