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Author Topic: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?  (Read 11430 times)

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anyone have any insight?

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 10:51:43 AM »
Who is MQ?

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 11:10:33 AM »
If the question is whether they will be a tenant of the new building, I think given their attendance, beer sales, and relatively small number of dates, I would say absolutely and more likely whoever owns the new arena, should one be built, would absolutely clamor that MU stay

If the question is what will being in a new arena do for MU hoops, I would say only good things, assuming our play isn't affected for some odd reason

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 11:13:01 AM »
The only problem I see is higher beer prices
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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 11:19:23 AM »
If the decision is made to leave the BC standing, Marquette should play hardball to get the best lease deal they can.  Having a second stadium will definitely make it a buyer's market.  There is no real incentive for Marquette to pay more to use the new arena.  The BC fits their needs, and for most games, there is adequate seating.

Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 11:22:28 AM »
What's MQ?

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 11:23:25 AM »
If the decision is made to leave the BC standing, Marquette should play hardball to get the best lease deal they can.  Having a second stadium will definitely make it a buyer's market.  There is no real incentive for Marquette to pay more to use the new arena.  The BC fits their needs, and for most games, there is adequate seating.



They won't be competing against each other.  The new arena and BC will be under the same managment.  The U.S. Cellular/Mecca will be history.

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 11:40:41 AM »
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/goldeneagles.html

Marquette could get a real boost from new arena
By Michael Hunt of the Journal Sentinel   
April 16, 2014

The proposed downtown multipurpose arena, which got a $200 million jumpstart Wednesday, could really help the Golden Eagles in terms of recruiting, BMO Harris Bradley Center officials say.

So far, Marquette has remained behind the scenes in the arena discussion. The school has chosen to keep a low profile in what has been a politically uneven situation. But if the arena gets built, the school will continue to be a partner with the Bucks in sharing the building.

The Golden Eagles have the distinction right now of playing in an NBA arena, but other schools in the Big East have advantages with better home facilities.

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Regarding that last line ....

I think this is badly worded and he means the Bradley Center versus other NBA arenas that BE teams play in.  I don't think he means other BE teams have a better facilities than The AL.

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 11:46:22 AM »
They won't be competing against each other.  The new arena and BC will be under the same managment.  The U.S. Cellular/Mecca will be history.

I am aware of that.  My point was that if MECCA wants to charge Marquette a huge increase in rent for playing in the new facility, they should say that they are fine staying in the BC at the old rent.  I'd rather have that difference plowed back into the athletic budget.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 11:53:25 AM »
If we're brought on board and asked for input, I have one design request: corner tunnels.  Few things about the BC bother me, but the gaping hole in the student section directly behind the backboard is one of them.

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 12:00:20 PM »
If the decision is made to leave the BC standing, Marquette should play hardball to get the best lease deal they can.  Having a second stadium will definitely make it a buyer's market.  There is no real incentive for Marquette to pay more to use the new arena.  The BC fits their needs, and for most games, there is adequate seating.

There is a reason season ticket holders drop off dramatically when the upper level begins.  I would still have my tickets could I have gotten my seats in the lower bowl.



The lower bowl is way too small at the BC.  I myself would have gone to at least 2x as many games had I not had to site in the upper level at the bc.  I know quite a few people that feel the same way.


Upper level issues:
Seats too small
seats dont have enough leg room
upper level way too steep

Proportion of seat between upper and lower level because of the hockey design is terrible.  Hopefully the new stadium will change this and MU will have an even better home court.

Plus it would be a nice selling point for recruits.

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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 12:19:25 PM »
Does anyone have any idea how many seats will be in this new arena?  Current BC holds about 18,000 - I know the largest NBA arenas accommodate around 23,000.  To me, adding almost 5,000 seats is ridiculous, given how there aren't that many sellouts.  I'm assuming there will be double stacked rows of corporate luxury boxes.  Hopefully, the extra seating comes in the lower levels.  However, I would assume the upper level seating isn't improved as much since seats will be added.  Does anyone have any thoughts?  The building is going to be revenue maximized, so the addition of luxury suits will be top priority. 

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 12:23:09 PM »
Does anyone have any idea how many seats will be in this new arena?  Current BC holds about 18,000 - I know the largest NBA arenas accommodate around 23,000.  To me, adding almost 5,000 seats is ridiculous, given how there aren't that many sellouts.  I'm assuming there will be double stacked rows of corporate luxury boxes.  Hopefully, the extra seating comes in the lower levels.  However, I would assume the upper level seating isn't improved as much since seats will be added.  Does anyone have any thoughts?  The building is going to be revenue maximized, so the addition of luxury suits will be top priority. 

Nobody even knows how they play on funding the arena yet.  So I doubt any substantial plans have been released.  I do believe that the NBA has certain minimum requirements nowadays for capacity, bars, restaurants, stores etc.
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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2014, 12:46:39 PM »
Nobody even knows how they play on funding the arena yet.  So I doubt any substantial plans have been released.  I do believe that the NBA has certain minimum requirements nowadays for capacity, bars, restaurants, stores etc.

I get that the NBA wants to have certain minimum standards for arenas, but having requirements for bars, restaurants, and stores in new arenas seems like nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to give their owners more leverage at the bargaining table with public officials.  "I have to have a deluxe martini bar in the new stadium... the NBA requires it."
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 12:47:36 PM »
Does anyone have any idea how many seats will be in this new arena?  Current BC holds about 18,000 - I know the largest NBA arenas accommodate around 23,000.  To me, adding almost 5,000 seats is ridiculous, given how there aren't that many sellouts.  I'm assuming there will be double stacked rows of corporate luxury boxes.  Hopefully, the extra seating comes in the lower levels.  However, I would assume the upper level seating isn't improved as much since seats will be added.  Does anyone have any thoughts?  The building is going to be revenue maximized, so the addition of luxury suits will be top priority. 

I'd venture to guess they lower the number of seats. It's the way most all stadiums and ballparks are going. Less seats, more club seats, wider concourses, more concessions, more stuff to get attendees to open their wallet.

I'd still venture to guess it'll somewhere around 17,000-19,000 depending on the event (hockey vs basketball vs concerts). Can't see it only being 16,000. KC's Spring Center is a nice gauge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Center
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Re: New Bucks owners want a new stadium how will that effect MQ hoops?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2014, 12:50:19 PM »
Hopefully they don't put the new arena down by Miller Park to create a stadium district. I like it downtown.

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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2014, 12:52:41 PM »
Hopefully they don't put the new arena down by Miller Park to create a stadium district. I like it downtown.

yeah, that would suck

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2014, 12:56:27 PM »
Hopefully they don't put the new arena down by Miller Park to create a stadium district. I like it downtown.

If they don't put it downtown, MU should definitely stay at the BC.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2014, 01:09:58 PM »
Kohl said he could kick in $100 million.  The new owners said they also would kick in $100 million.

Is this enough to gut the BC and completely redo it without building another barn?  Would this idea even work?

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2014, 01:13:48 PM »
I'd venture to guess they lower the number of seats. It's the way most all stadiums and ballparks are going. Less seats, more club seats, wider concourses, more concessions, more stuff to get attendees to open their wallet.

I'd still venture to guess it'll somewhere around 17,000-19,000 depending on the event (hockey vs basketball vs concerts). Can't see it only being 16,000. KC's Spring Center is a nice gauge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Center

I think they got smaller....gotta get butts in seats, make the seats much less of a commodity by reducing supply.

They need to go 14000 to 16000, all new wireless technology, energy efficient, multi-use space.  I would also find a way to allow at least two mid-level concerts simultaneously.  Think of it as the Rave on steroids.  They could rake in a ton of dough if they had multi-concerts on week day nights in the summer and fall when there isn't basketball.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2014, 01:33:40 PM »
Hopefully they don't put the new arena down by Miller Park to create a stadium district. I like it downtown.

How much business would all the bars and restaurants lose if they moved the BC?  A lot ...  Between MU and Bucks you're losing about 60 events.  How boring would it be by Miller park?  What would you even do before the game?  I'm sure a few diehard tailgaters would be out there, which would be amusing ......but you lose out on a lot of revenue. 

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2014, 01:39:34 PM »
How much business would all the bars and restaurants lose if they moved the BC?  A lot ...  Between MU and Bucks you're losing about 60 events.  How boring would it be by Miller park?  What would you even do before the game?  I'm sure a few diehard tailgaters would be out there, which would be amusing ......but you lose out on a lot of revenue. 

Parking downtown blows massive chunks.

Local bars and restaurants are going to lose out, as the new arena will have its own more up to date and more hip competitors.
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2014, 01:43:46 PM »
Marquette should play hardball to get the best lease deal they can. 

Any chance they threaten to move the franchise to Seattle?


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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2014, 01:59:03 PM »
why on gods unnatural carnal knowledgeing green earth would a new arena not go downtown. With 2-3 new high rise buildings going up downtown, moving the BC to west Milwaukee is just Absurd.

Warrior chick seems to be shooting her wrongness all over scoop today. There is no way MU would be stupid enough to stay at the Bradley Center, MU doesn't have the resources to manage an arena, while an NBA caliber one would be right across the street.

Marotta is behind the scenes talking to Cords about private financing from Alumni. the $200m combined from Kohl and the new owners won't be the ceiling.

Parking downtown blows massive chunks.

Local bars and restaurants are going to lose out, as the new arena will have its own more up to date and more hip competitors.


With comments like this stupid, I can see why people are quitting scoop. a few new bars at an arena aren't going to drive bars and restaurants out of downtown Milwaukee, in fact the mystique of having a new arena should draw thousands of more fans. Only two years (2002 -2003, the 2nd and 3rd years of Miller Park, seasons where the brewers combined for 200 losses) was attendance at MP below 2 million fans. Previously the Brewers hadn't cracked 1.9m+ fans since 1989. If you build it, they will come. And they will go downtown for drinks and food before and after.

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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2014, 02:03:45 PM »
Any chance they threaten to move the franchise to Seattle?

You can stop with your antagonizing, Bucks to Seattle rhetoric, Keefe.  I see someone is bored today.  lol.