3rd Assistant

[Blackhat]

What direction would you go here?   What do we need most?

Game planning/ x and o sage  or Chicago, etc. recruiting ties guy or young guy without connections yet but a player's coach?

I'm guessing Wojo is a good x and o guy after a decade with K.  Plus he seems like a smart guy.   Carrawell knows the b-ball program but has never recruited.

Think Wojo needs a big city recruiter like Bo found with that Akron assistant he hired on staff.

[wheresthecake?]

Need more recruiters.  Gotta find an Isaac Chew equivalent.

[Tums Festival]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Phelps was hired because of his recruiting ability more than his x's and o's. It's too bad Jimmy Boylan isn't available. He would be a great fit.

[Blackhat]

Thought Phelps was hired for his zone defense.   


Sounds like Phelps has some national connections. 

There's got to be some mid major assistant at a chicago area college who's tied in.   

[rocket surgeon]

any chance kevin o'neil would want to join the fun?

[Dawson Rental]

any chance kevin o'neil would want to join the fun?

As the third assistant?  No.

[rocket surgeon]

didn't think so-i'm going to have to learn how to use that teal thingy more often

[Dawson Rental]

didn't think so-i'm going to have to learn how to use that teal thingy more often

There have been some recent posters for whom that could very well have been an honest question.

[4everwarriors]

Can't pay me enough for the gig.

[wadesworld]

There have been some recent posters for whom that could very well have been an honest question.

Fact.

[77ncaachamps]

Would Brian Wardle earn more as an asst than a HC?

[Tugg Speedman]

Issue going to keep wainwright around?

He should for one year as wainwright has been around the last few years and that knowledge can help with the transition.

[sailwi]

If Wojo wants to keep Wainwright for a year could be as DBO or a  special assistant.  No idea what the limitations on a special assistant are.

[avid1010]

There have been some recent posters for whom that could very well have been an honest question.

you mean grant hill isn't coming?

[Litehouse]

you mean grant hill isn't coming?

Or Shane Battier?

[TedBaxter]

Possibly another former NBA player, but not Grant Hill or Shane Battier.  This one would have some D1 and NBA assistant coaching experience.

[Boone]

Rick Brunson?

[TedBaxter]

Brunson's name was on Twitter in regards to the Marquette job, so I guess that's why I say it's a possibility.  Don't know anything beyond that.

[marquette20]

Not sure Brunson is a realistic candidate. With his son a highly regarded recruit, it would be sketchy if he became an assistant.

[TedBaxter]

Why?  He's been on the staffs of the University of Hartford and the University of Virginia along with his NBA assistant experience.  He's had player development experience as well.  He has as much or more experience than most college assistants on the bench and that doesn't take into account his playing career at Temple and professional basketball.

[Rockmic87]

Sean Dockery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Dockery

[Tums Festival]

Brunson's name was on Twitter in regards to the Marquette job, so I guess that's why I say it's a possibility.  Don't know anything beyond that.

Chas Wolfe ‏@highmajorscoop  Apr 2
"Potential Assistants" w/new Jobs:
JD Byers to Rice
Rick Brunson to Marquette
Jon Scheyer to Duke
Bobby Steinburg to BG
Jason Slay to NKU

WindyCityBasketball ‏@WndyCtyBsktball  Apr 8
Anyone hearing anything about Rick Brunson joining staff at Marquette?

[77ncaachamps]

Not sure Brunson is a realistic candidate. With his son a highly regarded recruit, it would be sketchy if he became an assistant.

You mean like Billy Garrett?

[Tums Festival]

Not sure Brunson is a realistic candidate. With his son a highly regarded recruit, it would be sketchy if he became an assistant.

Larry Brown hired Danny Manning's father as an assistant coach. There were rumblings by other schools but I don't believe any rules were broken.

[Blackhat]

Thought Danny Manning was out of eligibility.

[Lennys Tap]

Larry Brown hired Danny Manning's father as an assistant coach. There were rumblings by other schools but I don't believe any rules were broken.

And Ed (Danny's dad) was a truck driver before he went to Kansas as a package deal with his kid.

[MUSF]

any chance kevin o'neil would want to join the fun?

When Kevin O'neil joins something it automatically becomes less fun.

[Dawson Rental]

If Wojo wants to keep Wainwright for a year could be as DBO or a  special assistant.  No idea what the limitations on a special assistant are.

Absolutely no soul stealing allowed.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

You can hire a recruit ' dad if the dad gets an AC job.  Can hire the dad to bury him at video coordinator or DBO, etc.

[onepost]

I didn't want to start a brand new thread, and I'm sure I'll be dismissed by some because I don't have 10K posts, but on the topic of assistant coaches, I saw Brad Autry tonight at the now 7/11 on campus.  I've always seemed to run into Coach Autry the last couple years there as he's always grabbing some monstrous fountain soda, and he was the one who gave me a student managing opportunity my freshman year, so we know one another.

But I saw him there tonight and said the usual "hey, how's it going" type stuff before I decided to ask "So are you headed to Blacksburg?".  And he responded with an immediate "unnatural carnal knowledge no, absolutely not."  I was shocked at how candid he ended up being and we talked for a good five minutes there.  Nothing groundbreaking, but it definitely confirmed a lot of what has been said here the past couple weeks.  He said he spent Tuesday and Wednesday of that week trying to convince Buzz to stay and that they had a great thing going here.  But all Buzz would give him in return was a simple "I want a new challenge."  Autry didn't hold any grudges or have any sort of animosity toward Buzz (kept saying that it was the nature of the business) but he said he kept telling him "I'm just not seeing it, man.  That's a dead-end job and you know it."

Said that the rifts with the AD weren't as bad as people made it out to be but that it was a "smaller factor".  Another thing that was interesting to me was that he said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "as a coach, when you leave for something new, you want the administration to be pissed that you're leaving them, but that wasn't really the case here and that's unfortunate."  I asked how he felt about Wojo and he said we would love him here.  That he was incredibly genuine and passionate and it showed within the department already.  Then he said he was really disappointed he didn't get the head job himself (I never even thought he was considered but apparently he was under the impression he had a good chance), but that Wojo wanted it just as much as that he would do great things.  The last thing he said was that he thought the '13 and '14 classes were going to be spectacular (even said he was more excited for the '14 class than the '13 class which surprised me).  Forgot to ask about Ahmed Hill and a couple other things but I didn't want to keep him there all night.  Anyway, it's nothing that hasn't been discussed here but I thought it was interesting to get Buzz's right-hand man's take on things.  Here's hoping for bigger and better things from Coach Wojo.

[Markusquette]

Nice post.  Thanks for the great write-up.  Did you happen to ask what's next for him?  Doesn't sound as though he will be on our coaching staff.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Real interesting conversation. We know VT cant pay Chew what we payed him, Jerry isnt going to Blacksburg anytime soon and now Autry isnt even leaving. Sounds like Brent dug himself quite the hole.

[onepost]

Nice post.  Thanks for the great write-up.  Did you happen to ask what's next for him?  Doesn't sound as though he will be on our coaching staff.

I did ask him but he said he didn't want to name any particular schools that contacted him and that he wasn't close to deciding on what to do next.  Just told me he loved it here (not gonna be on the new staff and it didn't sound like Chew and Reynolds were headed to VT) and that he would be praying for it and I wished him luck.

[Tugg Speedman]

Nice post.  Thanks for the great write-up.  Did you happen to ask what's next for him?  Doesn't sound as though he will be on our coaching staff.

I think its surprising that Brent has not named any assistants.  He left March 22 so its been almost a month.  

Yes, by not hiring his assistants they can recruit signed players as they are "free agents."  But here again, it's been almost a month.  The signing date reopens Wednesday (April 16) so this process is going to FINISH really fast.  Recruits are going to announce and then sign as starting Wednesday.  

Same with Pierce, Hill, Harris and Shayok.  Unsigned players will start signing on Wednesday and spots will get taken.  Pierce and Hill better decide to stay at MU or ask for a release quickly.  Shayok and Harris better decide what they want to do quickly.

What I'm trying to say is I don't think Brent is the evil genius mastermind by keeping his assistants "unhired' so they can contact signed players (MU recruits).  Rather I'm coming around to the idea that Brent is having a hard time finding guys that want to run to Blacksburg to be an assistant on a last place team for a guy that made a really stupid decision to go there.

[keefe]

I think its surprising that Brent has not named any assistants.  He left March 22 so its been almost a month.  

 Rather I'm coming around to the idea that Brent is having a hard time finding guys that want to run to Blacksburg to be an assistant on a last place team for a guy that made a really stupid decision to go there.

Bert may be an idiot but he's not stupid. Far from it. And while Fr. Davitt taught us that ethical standards are absolute some people will replay, "depends."

People will give their left testicle to coach in the ACC. They'll even work for an autistic buffoon for the opportunity.

[ThatDude]

I didn't want to start a brand new thread, and I'm sure I'll be dismissed by some because I don't have 10K posts, but on the topic of assistant coaches, I saw Brad Autry tonight at the now 7/11 on campus.  I've always seemed to run into Coach Autry the last couple years there as he's always grabbing some monstrous fountain soda, and he was the one who gave me a student managing opportunity my freshman year, so we know one another.

But I saw him there tonight and said the usual "hey, how's it going" type stuff before I decided to ask "So are you headed to Blacksburg?".  And he responded with an immediate "unnatural carnal knowledge no, absolutely not."  I was shocked at how candid he ended up being and we talked for a good five minutes there.  Nothing groundbreaking, but it definitely confirmed a lot of what has been said here the past couple weeks.  He said he spent Tuesday and Wednesday of that week trying to convince Buzz to stay and that they had a great thing going here.  But all Buzz would give him in return was a simple "I want a new challenge."  Autry didn't hold any grudges or have any sort of animosity toward Buzz (kept saying that it was the nature of the business) but he said he kept telling him "I'm just not seeing it, man.  That's a dead-end job and you know it."

Said that the rifts with the AD weren't as bad as people made it out to be but that it was a "smaller factor".  Another thing that was interesting to me was that he said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "as a coach, when you leave for something new, you want the administration to be pissed that you're leaving them, but that wasn't really the case here and that's unfortunate."  I asked how he felt about Wojo and he said we would love him here.  That he was incredibly genuine and passionate and it showed within the department already.  Then he said he was really disappointed he didn't get the head job himself (I never even thought he was considered but apparently he was under the impression he had a good chance), but that Wojo wanted it just as much as that he would do great things.  The last thing he said was that he thought the '13 and '14 classes were going to be spectacular (even said he was more excited for the '14 class than the '13 class which surprised me).  Forgot to ask about Ahmed Hill and a couple other things but I didn't want to keep him there all night.  Anyway, it's nothing that hasn't been discussed here but I thought it was interesting to get Buzz's right-hand man's take on things.  Here's hoping for bigger and better things from Coach Wojo.

Very informative.  Thanks for this post

[ATWizJr]

Real interesting conversation. We know VT cant pay Chew what we payed him, Jerry isnt going to Blacksburg anytime soon and now Autry isnt even leaving. Sounds like Brent dug himself quite the hole.

Yes, they can pay Chew.  It'll result in a lower salary for Buzz. Done all the time.

[Tugg Speedman]

Yes, they can pay Chew.  It'll result in a lower salary for Buzz. Done all the time.

So Buzz takes a paycut to go to VT and another paycut to hire Chew?

[wadesworld]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/416918-despite-report-hills-not-interested?eref=sihp

Hill doesn't want the Detroit front office job because he's coming to be Wojo's 3rd assistant, right?

[ChicosBailBonds]

I didn't want to start a brand new thread, and I'm sure I'll be dismissed by some because I don't have 10K posts, but on the topic of assistant coaches, I saw Brad Autry tonight at the now 7/11 on campus.  I've always seemed to run into Coach Autry the last couple years there as he's always grabbing some monstrous fountain soda, and he was the one who gave me a student managing opportunity my freshman year, so we know one another.

But I saw him there tonight and said the usual "hey, how's it going" type stuff before I decided to ask "So are you headed to Blacksburg?".  And he responded with an immediate "unnatural carnal knowledge no, absolutely not."  I was shocked at how candid he ended up being and we talked for a good five minutes there.  Nothing groundbreaking, but it definitely confirmed a lot of what has been said here the past couple weeks.  He said he spent Tuesday and Wednesday of that week trying to convince Buzz to stay and that they had a great thing going here.  But all Buzz would give him in return was a simple "I want a new challenge."  Autry didn't hold any grudges or have any sort of animosity toward Buzz (kept saying that it was the nature of the business) but he said he kept telling him "I'm just not seeing it, man.  That's a dead-end job and you know it."

Said that the rifts with the AD weren't as bad as people made it out to be but that it was a "smaller factor".  Another thing that was interesting to me was that he said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "as a coach, when you leave for something new, you want the administration to be pissed that you're leaving them, but that wasn't really the case here and that's unfortunate."  I asked how he felt about Wojo and he said we would love him here.  That he was incredibly genuine and passionate and it showed within the department already.  Then he said he was really disappointed he didn't get the head job himself (I never even thought he was considered but apparently he was under the impression he had a good chance), but that Wojo wanted it just as much as that he would do great things.  The last thing he said was that he thought the '13 and '14 classes were going to be spectacular (even said he was more excited for the '14 class than the '13 class which surprised me).  Forgot to ask about Ahmed Hill and a couple other things but I didn't want to keep him there all night.  Anyway, it's nothing that hasn't been discussed here but I thought it was interesting to get Buzz's right-hand man's take on things.  Here's hoping for bigger and better things from Coach Wojo.

If you believe this rumor, then " unnatural carnal knowledgeing Absolutely Not" has changed.

http://fightinggobbler.com/2014/04/21/buzz-williams-continues-adding-virginia-tech-coaching-staff/

[MattyWarrior]

Brents new book "How to Poach for Dummies" is available now in bookstores, Section 1 Quiet as its kept 2 Money and the Bible
3 Let your mouthpiece be the dummy.

[Dawson Rental]

If you believe this rumor, then " unnatural carnal knowledgeing Absolutely Not" has changed.

http://fightinggobbler.com/2014/04/21/buzz-williams-continues-adding-virginia-tech-coaching-staff/

Well, let's evaluate the rumor monger.

In the article it says:

"...Buzz Williams was able to add one of his top assistants at Marquette to his Virginia Tech staff as Isaac Chew left to join Buzz Williams... 
...rumors have suggested that the addition of Brad Autry is coming. Like Isaac Chew, Brad Autry was one of Buzz Williams’s top assistants at Marquette and it is expected that Autry will end up following Williams to Virginia Tech...
...I would expect Buzz Williams to add a couple more coaches that are very familiar with the Mid-Atlantic recruiting territory so expect more news to come over the next few weeks..."

  a) Buzz has added Chew (1 AC)
  b) Buzz will likely add Autry (2 ACs)
  c) expect Buzz to add a couple more coaches (3 & 4 ACs)

So this guy thinks that in a ACC, they get four assistant coaches for men's basketball?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, let's evaluate the rumor monger.

In the article it says:

"...Buzz Williams was able to add one of his top assistants at Marquette to his Virginia Tech staff as Isaac Chew left to join Buzz Williams... 
...rumors have suggested that the addition of Brad Autry is coming. Like Isaac Chew, Brad Autry was one of Buzz Williams’s top assistants at Marquette and it is expected that Autry will end up following Williams to Virginia Tech...
...I would expect Buzz Williams to add a couple more coaches that are very familiar with the Mid-Atlantic recruiting territory so expect more news to come over the next few weeks..."

  a) Buzz has added Chew (1 AC)
  b) Buzz will likely add Autry (2 ACs)
  c) expect Buzz to add a couple more coaches (3 & 4 ACs)

So this guy thinks that in a ACC, they get four assistant coaches for men's basketball?

Perhaps they are alluding to Video Coordinator, etc...not official coaches, but on the staff in some capacity.

Buzz went after Johnson at IU as well.  He turned them down, ultimately became a bidding war between Louisville and Maryland and once he was given the #1 spot at Louisville, #donedeal.

[77ncaachamps]

Perhaps they are alluding to Video Coordinator, etc...not official coaches, but on the staff in some capacity.

Buzz went after Johnson at IU as well.  He turned them down, ultimately became a bidding war between Louisville and Maryland and once he was given the #1 spot at Louisville, #donedeal.

Did we get into a "bidding war" over Chew?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Did we get into a "bidding war" over Chew?

Uhm, no.

[onepost]

If you believe this rumor, then " unnatural carnal knowledgeing Absolutely Not" has changed.

http://fightinggobbler.com/2014/04/21/buzz-williams-continues-adding-virginia-tech-coaching-staff/

Well crap, consider me shocked to hear this. He seemed completely adamant that he was staying away from Blacksburg but maybe it was one of the only big-conference gigs he was offered. Or maybe he was just bullcrapting me the entire way, wouldn't surprise me seeing who he would be joining.

[Earl Tatum]

We need an Assistant who has a name and can recruit. So far I don't see that. Has Carrawell ever recruited
college talent and Phelps from of all places Drake. You don't get any talent or win at Drake. Never heard of
the dude. WE NEED A LIGHTS OUT RECRUITER. It's been hush, hush for awhile and we lost out recruiting
class. (2014).  Cohen and that's it. Lost Hill and Shayok. Come on Wojo, we can use a little help.
Let's get out there and do your thing. Hopefully Carlino and a PLUS BIG MAN for this year.

[Earl Tatum]

Our High School has a bigger team than you.

[77ncaachamps]

Here's what we know about Phelps:

"Phelps also landed three players from the neighboring state of Illinois during his time at Drake, including guard Rayvonte Rice, who averaged 15.4 points per game in two seasons before he transferred to Illinois in April 2012.

“We recruited Illinois hard,” Phelps said. “I have good contacts there and I’m excited about jumping back into Illinois. In Chicago, there are some tremendous players so we want to take advantage of that.”

Perhaps the most well-known recruit that Phelps says he helped land is swingman Julius Hodge, New York’s “Mr. Basketball” for 2000-01 who went on to become the ACC’s player of the year in 2004 and N.C. State’s third leading-scorer of all-time. Phelps noted that Hodge, who is from Harlem, went to St. Raymond, the same high school that produced incoming freshman point guard Shane Rector."

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/19/4301925/interview-with-new-missouri-basketball.html#storylink=cpy

[Tugg Speedman]

What happened to Dino Trogonis becoming an assistant?

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43653.0

[GGGG]

What happened to Dino Trogonis becoming an assistant?

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43653.0

He might be.  There is no reason to officially hire him when he can be out recruiting without restriction.  I am sure that is why both the 3rd assistant and the DBO haven't been hired.