WI class of 2015

[HutchwasClutch]

The state has so many high level prospects in next year's class-
Noskowiak
Stone
Ellenson
Brevin Pritzl
Matt Heldt

Mike Miller tweeted a couple of days ago about MU's increasing interest in Pritzl and Heldt.

As things stand today, one open scholarship, and then three more openings for 2015-16 season (Anderson, De. Wilson, and Mayo complete eligibility). 

It sure seems that Noskowiak is MU's to lose, and he's more likely than not to re-commit and sign. 

So bank the scholarship for next season, go with 12 scholarship players next year, and try and cash in on the state's very strong 2015 class?   I think that's the route I prefer Coach Wojo go.  Imagine a four man class of Noskowiak, Stone, Ellenson, Heldt- three bigs and an elite guard- three top 50-60 prospects, and all from the state?! 

[The Process]

Wouldn't a grad transfer have the same effect as banking the schollie and keep MU at 13 players?

[HutchwasClutch]

Wouldn't a grad transfer have the same effect as banking the schollie and keep MU at 13 players?

I'm not against that either- if there's a guy coach thinks can put us over the top for next year, get us to another level, great. 

I guess my main question about bringing in a one year guy is- how deep does Coach Wojo plan on his rotation being next year?  Coming from the Duke system, I don't see the same liberal substitution patterns that we saw with Buzz.  I think as things stand right now, the 10 guys committed all bring things to the table that will make a challenge for Wojo to find minutes for.  Like many, I've kind of written off Juan Anderson and Derrick Wilson, but you can't discount their experience and some things they bring to the table already. 

[chapman]

Wouldn't a grad transfer have the same effect as banking the schollie and keep MU at 13 players?

Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

[HutchwasClutch]

Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

I agree with that, but you bring in a one year guy and someone, likely more than one guy, minutes and opportunities are going to be reduced.  There's only so many minutes to spread around.  That's my only concern with bringing in a guy for next season only.

[MUSF]

I agree with that, but you bring in a one year guy and someone, likely more than one guy, minutes and opportunities are going to be reduced.  There's only so many minutes to spread around.  That's my only concern with bringing in a guy for next season only.

I wouldn't worry about minutes with the players we are returning next year. If we can get a good player, we take it.

[The Process]

Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

Which was exactly where I was headed. Why only keep 12 this year? One never knows what'll happen with injuries and whatnot.

[WadeATKBurton]

I'll pass on everyone except Stone and maybe Ellenson.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

maybe we pull an I4 and self impose a reduction in scholarships for this upcoming year.  You know, to prep for all of the turrible things that the bailbondsman keeps implying will be coming to light and stuff.

[Dawson Rental]

Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

I think that that was the point that The Process was making.

[Dawson Rental]

I'll pass on everyone except Stone and maybe Ellenson.

So, using your criteria, Marquette would have passed on Dwyane Wade, Travis Diener and Jim McIlvaine.

[Dawson Rental]

I'm not against that either- if there's a guy coach thinks can put us over the top for next year, get us to another level, great. 

I guess my main question about bringing in a one year guy is- how deep does Coach Wojo plan on his rotation being next year?  Coming from the Duke system, I don't see the same liberal substitution patterns that we saw with Buzz.  I think as things stand right now, the 10 guys committed all bring things to the table that will make a challenge for Wojo to find minutes for.  Like many, I've kind of written off Juan Anderson and Derrick Wilson, but you can't discount their experience and some things they bring to the table already. 

Unless Wojo gets a transfer big who can play immediately, Juan Anderson will probably get pushed back inside where he'll get some minutes and even be the top reserve until Luke is eligible.

[Aircraftcarrier]

You would pass on Ellenson?You sure do not know much about evaluating talent then.Glad you are not the coach.smh.

[WadeATKBurton]

You would pass on Ellenson?You sure do not know much about evaluating talent then.Glad you are not the coach.smh.

Ok

[Tums Festival]

Ellenson is a stud and a worker and has lots of upside. If Wojo runs anything close to what Duke likes to run on offense, he could do quite well at MU. Plus he seems to have meshed with Noskowiak on their AAU team. I think he's a big target of Wojo's.

[Dawson Rental]

Ellenson is a stud and a worker and has lots of upside. If Wojo runs anything close to what Duke likes to run on offense, he could do quite well at MU. Plus he seems to have meshed with Noskowiak on their AAU team. I think he's a big target of Wojo's.

Marquette was nowhere in the picture with Ellenson when Buzz was here.  Just being considered by him at this late point is great work by Wojo.  Landing him would be an epic recruiting win. 

[Aircraftcarrier]

Ellenson can go to any school he wants.He is that good.

[oshkoshbgosh]

A agree about Ellenson, he's a stud. He can really run the floor and handle the ball for 6'10". Another player not mentioned is Cody Schwartz, 6'8" with a legitimate 3-point range.

[Earl Tatum]

Heavy Gear--- That's what I been saying on many blogs--- Also, Noskowiak is as good as advertised and Pritzl and Schwartz getting nearing the top. Heldt just keeps getting better and
this summer, AAU Ball, he will be more than noticed. Can shoot, rebound and move.
Ellenson, with all his talent, is a hard worker. So, Stone is not the only one in 2015.

[Earl Tatum]

Just to let you know, I saw them in action in big games against good players,

[Warrior Code]

So coach Wojo is already so good he can pick and choose who he wants from Wisconsin? Save the scholarship, we need it for the talent coming here next year. Got it.


I guess I have to admit I'm happy to hear a certain local program's recent Final Four will have no bearing on the minds of in-state recruits.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My to get list from the WI class of 2015

Diamond Stone
Henry Ellenson
Nick Noskowiak
Matt Heldt
Cody Schwartz
Damontrae Jefferson

Probably pass on everyone else.

Oh, and you fill every scholarship you can for 2014. If you need it for 2015, cut the kid after a year. It seems cold but it is perfectly acceptable and happens more than we think

[WadeATKBurton]

My to get list from the WI class of 2015

Diamond Stone
Henry Ellenson
Nick Noskowiak
Matt Heldt
Cody Schwartz
Damontrae Jefferson

Probably pass on everyone else.

Oh, and you fill every scholarship you can for 2014. If you need it for 2015, cut the kid after a year. It seems cold but it is perfectly acceptable and happens more than we think

That Da. Jefferson kid is a really, REALLY good!

[Dawson Rental]

That Da. Jefferson kid is a really, REALLY good!

You're gonna need to use teal so people know you're kidding.  I knew because its obvious to me that there's no way you'd know who this kid was.

[The Process]

You're gonna need to use teal so people know you're kidding.  I knew because its obvious to me that there's no way you'd know who this kid was.

No wonder why Cuonzo had such troubles recruiting at Tennessee - he did it all via message board!

[Tums Festival]

No wonder why Cuonzo had such troubles recruiting at Tennessee - he did it all via message board!

As demonstrated repeatedly on this board, Cuonzo's got a few more problems than just recruiting.

[HutchwasClutch]

So coach Wojo is already so good he can pick and choose who he wants from Wisconsin? Save the scholarship, we need it for the talent coming here next year. Got it.


I guess I have to admit I'm happy to hear a certain local program's recent Final Four will have no bearing on the minds of in-state recruits.

I don't see anyone even implied that in this thread, so I don't know where that comment is coming from?

UW is of course an enormous force with in-state recruiting, but we'll see how much of a bump they get from their Final Four run.  I don't recall any bump at all following their 2000 appearance.

I think Crean failed miserably after our Final Four run, our recruiting classes were largely busts as I can remember until the James, Matthews, McNeal class, but that was a couple of classes after the 2003 run (they were class of '05) and it was really joining the old Big East that likely gave them that recruiting boost.  Their freshman seasons was our old Big East debut.
  

[HutchwasClutch]

Other posters are right- no reason to self restrict to one less scholarship for 2014-15.   Next year's WI high school senior class is still very intriguing, and who knows what other out of state prospects Wojo and staff are eyeing. 

It's right there for us to land a top 10 national recruiting class- start with getting a Diamond Stone commit (right now #5 in ESPN top 100) and we're well on our way if we can land 1 or 2 other 2015 WI kids and maybe another guy outside of WI in the top 100.

Easier said than done I know, but why not MU?!

[WadeATKBurton]

You're gonna need to use teal so people know you're kidding.  I knew because its obvious to me that there's no way you'd know who this kid was.

What is teal?

[WadeATKBurton]

No wonder why Cuonzo had such troubles recruiting at Tennessee - he did it all via message board!

Geteeeeem!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What is teal?

We use teal on this board to denote when we are being sarcastic

[ChicosBailBonds]

What is teal?

And you say you are a Marquette fan

[wildbill sb]

What is teal?

A shade of blue that's a change from the default black print color.

[GB Warrior]

I wouldn't put too much stock in an increase in attention to Pritzl and Heldt - Wojo hasn't been around the Wisconsin scene, and it's probably just due diligence, while Buzz (and the players) had already made up their minds about one another. Could be something, I guess, but I wouldn't think anything has really changed.

[TealOnly]

We use teal on this board to denote when we are being sarcastic

I never write in teal.

[The Process]

Geteeeeem!

Poor, poor Cuonzo. Maybe a ride in your private jet wil help you... Oops.

[WadeATKBurton]

Poor, poor Cuonzo. Maybe a ride in your private jet wil help you... Oops.

Geteeeem!

[The Process]

Geteeeem!

Is that the extent of your ability to reply? No wonder why your interview went so badly.

Cords: How do you plan to continue the trend of attracting top talent to MU?

Cuonzo: Geteeeem!

... And now it all makes sense.

[WadeATKBurton]

Is that the extent of your ability to reply? No wonder why your interview went so badly.

Cords: How do you plan to continue the trend of attracting top talent to MU?

Cuonzo: Geteeeem!

... And now it all makes sense.

Inside joke for you clowns

Geteeeeem!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Inside joke for you clowns

Geteeeeem!

So you are telling inside jokes on a basketball forum that no one understands? Seems productive

And that is a proper use of teal 

[WadeATKBurton]

So you are telling inside jokes on a basketball forum that no one understands? Seems productive

And that is a proper use of teal 

Indeed. Geteeeeem!

[Tums Festival]

With Hill no longer in the mix, how likely are we to sign any of the guys that haven't been previously mentioned? In other words anyone not named Ellenson, Noskowiak or Stone.

[jakeec]

I don't see Ellenson going to Marquette.  He's UW's to lose I believe.

[frozena pizza]

Marquette was nowhere in the picture with Ellenson when Buzz was here.  Just being considered by him at this late point is great work by Wojo.  Landing him would be an epic recruiting win. 

I must have missed this.  Do you have link that says he is considering MU?  Or just a source who is trusted and says it's a #donedeal that at some point Ellenson thought about Marquette, or heard of it?