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Author Topic: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union  (Read 38856 times)

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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #200 on: July 23, 2014, 12:10:33 PM »
http://www.cbssports.com/golf/eye-on-golf/24585468/the-2014-us-open-is-sold-out
I just don't get your point. The video is about golf participation, not attendance. They are literally turning away people from major golf events. You were saying US people don't turn out for other sports which is false. You used example of premiere single events like the tour de france to say they support those sports. We we showed up for a similar sport in Indy 500 in an equal amount of people. From my experience, it isn't unique to Americans only going to major events that are culturally import. Last summer I would stream Gianni's games from Greece at 2 in the morning to see only maybe 30 people in the stands. Do you have any evidence that these countries support lower tier sports at non-championship times? You are only giving examples of major championships.  

FYI- This major track event had 50K attendance in the US last year. http://www.thepennrelays.com/ You may want to check your numbers.
Are you that arguing that Americans sports fans support individual sports to the degree that Europeans do?

And finish this thought ... do you agree with Chucklehead that schools competing in Olympic sports is nothing but penance (form of punishment) for having football programs.  That was sparked my initial comment.  How many people think that little of Olympic sports?

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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #201 on: July 23, 2014, 12:13:35 PM »
Are you that arguing that Americans sports fans support individual sports to the degree that Europeans do?

And finish this thought ... do you agree with Chucklehead that schools competing in Olympic sports is nothing but penance (form of punishment) for having football programs.  That was sparked my initial comment.  How many people think that little of Olympic sports?


I think if the NCAA lifted the minimum sports requirement, that you would see a lot of schools cut the number of programs they field.

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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #202 on: July 23, 2014, 12:23:55 PM »

I think if the NCAA lifted the minimum sports requirement, that you would see a lot of schools cut the number of programs they field.

And if they cut eliminated title IX, more or less programs?  I would argue more.

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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #203 on: July 23, 2014, 12:32:25 PM »
And if they cut eliminated title IX, more or less programs?  I would argue more.


Well the NCAA can't cut Title IX...it's a federal law.  But yeah, I think most schools would attempt to limit their expenses in order to focus attention on sports (football, basketball) that give them the largest profile.

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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #204 on: July 23, 2014, 12:41:23 PM »
Hey we sided with Ryan Braun! Even when the rest of the country laughed at us!

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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #205 on: July 23, 2014, 01:32:01 PM »

Well the NCAA can't cut Title IX...it's a federal law.  But yeah, I think most schools would attempt to limit their expenses in order to focus attention on sports (football, basketball) that give them the largest profile.

I also agree. If our (A&M's) AD could cut every sport other than football, basketball, baseball, and softball, he would.
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Re: WSJ: John Calipari: NCAA Is Crumbling Like the Soviet Union
« Reply #206 on: July 25, 2014, 07:32:43 AM »
http://www.cbssports.com/golf/eye-on-golf/24585468/the-2014-us-open-is-sold-out
I just don't get your point. The video is about golf participation, not attendance. They are literally turning away people from major golf events. You were saying US people don't turn out for other sports which is false. You used example of premiere single events like the tour de france to say they support those sports. We we showed up for a similar sport in Indy 500 in an equal amount of people. From my experience, it isn't unique to Americans only going to major events that are culturally import. Last summer I would stream Gianni's games from Greece at 2 in the morning to see only maybe 30 people in the stands. Do you have any evidence that these countries support lower tier sports at non-championship times? You are only giving examples of major championships.  

FYI- This major track event had 50K attendance in the US last year. http://www.thepennrelays.com/ You may want to check your numbers.

Golf is on the decline in the US because...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101860445

2014 US Open ratings were abysmal
http://www.cbssports.com/golf/eye-on-golf/24590216/us-open-ratings-were-abysmal

British Open ratings tank with no Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson in contention
http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2014/7/23/5929261/2014-british-open-tv-ratings-tiger-woods-phil-mickelson

The 2014 Masters: CBS Averages Lowest Rating Since 1957; Sunday Ties 34-Year Low
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/04/the-masters-cbs-averages-lowest-rating-since-1957-sunday-ties-34-year-low/

2013 Players Championship Draws Lowest TV Ratings in 15 Years Without Tiger Woods
http://hotlinks.golf.com/2014/05/13/players-championship-draws-lowest-tv-ratings-in-15-years-without-tiger-woods/

 

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