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Author Topic: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?  (Read 4434 times)

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 08:49:32 PM »

Buzz Williams was gone. Marquette’s head coach was frustrated with the new league and changes in administration. He wanted a change of scenery.

The old Big East was all-powerful. It had guys like Jim Boeheim and Rick Pitino and virtually unlimited exposure that allowed Williams to win recruiting wars against fellow high-major programs.

Now, the league has taken more hits. It began with the departure of Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame to the ACC – and a revamped league that included seven holdovers in addition to Creighton, Xavier and Butler.

Doug McDermott carried the league this season, but his career is coming to an end, and now one of its other faces is gone -- to Virginia Tech.

Yes, Virginia Tech.

Marquette is still a quality job, but it’s not the same as it was a year or so ago. Those are just the facts. Williams was disenchanted.

There was always speculation that Williams would wind up going back closer to home -- somewhere in the Texas area. Maybe even replace Texas Longhorns coach Rick Barnes someday.

Instead, he has bolted for a bottom-tier spot in the ACC.

Williams is a home run for new Hokies athletic director Whit Babcock. No, he’s a grand slam. Babcock came from Cincinnati, and Williams is close to Bearcats coach Mick Cronin. That might have been the hook, but the key was exposure and support.

The administration has changed. Marquette will bring in a new president and athletic director at some point soon, and that’s rarely a positive sign for a standing head coach. Usually, the newcomers want "their" guys.

Williams now goes to work for "his guy" in the country's premier league. He’ll make the Hokies relevant -- even if it’ll be difficult to crack the top four of the league with Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse and Louisville all in the ACC. Now Williams, who thrives on being counted out, gets to go up against Coach K, Roy and gets another shot at Boeheim and Pitino.

Unlike Marquette, Virginia Tech carries virtually no expectations. In nine seasons, Seth Greenberg took the Hokies to just one NCAA tournament. James Johnson was 22-41 in his two-year stint.

It’s going to take time, though. Johnson didn’t leave much in the cupboard. Think of this as a similar situation that Frank Martin faced when he left Kansas State for South Carolina. It could be a couple more seasons of battling for the cellar.


But Williams also saw the handwriting on the wall. He had raised the expectations: five consecutive NCAA tourney appearances, two Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight. Marquette didn’t get in the postseason at all this season and the Golden Eagles will be worse off next season.

Now, Marquette is on the clock. The last go-around, the Golden Eagles pulled the shocker going with the anonymous Williams after Tom Crean left for Indiana.

I’ve been told that former UCLA coach Ben Howland will be in the mix. Syracuse coach-in-waiting Mike Hopkins might be in play. Former Marquette player and assistant Brian Wardle, now at Green Bay, will be in the equation. Wichita State’s Gregg Marshall, according to sources, would likely have interest. Dayton’s Archie Miller could also be in the equation.

Marquette might not be quite as attractive as it once was, but it’s still a job that will attract plenty of quality candidates.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 08:54:45 PM »
Is it me or was that story written by a 7th grader?

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 08:55:42 PM »
Is it me or was that story written by a 7th grader?  Maybe just the last sentence is what made me think the article was lame.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 08:59:35 PM »
Buzz Williams was gone. Marquette’s head coach was frustrated with the new league and changes in administration. He wanted a change of scenery.

The old Big East was all-powerful. It had guys like Jim Boeheim and Rick Pitino and virtually unlimited exposure that allowed Williams to win recruiting wars against fellow high-major programs.

Now, the league has taken more hits. It began with the departure of Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame to the ACC – and a revamped league that included seven holdovers in addition to Creighton, Xavier and Butler.

Doug McDermott carried the league this season, but his career is coming to an end, and now one of its other faces is gone -- to Virginia Tech.

Yes, Virginia Tech.

Marquette is still a quality job, but it’s not the same as it was a year or so ago. Those are just the facts. Williams was disenchanted.

There was always speculation that Williams would wind up going back closer to home -- somewhere in the Texas area. Maybe even replace Texas Longhorns coach Rick Barnes someday.

Instead, he has bolted for a bottom-tier spot in the ACC.

Williams is a home run for new Hokies athletic director Whit Babcock. No, he’s a grand slam. Babcock came from Cincinnati, and Williams is close to Bearcats coach Mick Cronin. That might have been the hook, but the key was exposure and support.

The administration has changed. Marquette will bring in a new president and athletic director at some point soon, and that’s rarely a positive sign for a standing head coach. Usually, the newcomers want "their" guys.

Williams now goes to work for "his guy" in the country's premier league. He’ll make the Hokies relevant -- even if it’ll be difficult to crack the top four of the league with Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse and Louisville all in the ACC. Now Williams, who thrives on being counted out, gets to go up against Coach K, Roy and gets another shot at Boeheim and Pitino.

Unlike Marquette, Virginia Tech carries virtually no expectations. In nine seasons, Seth Greenberg took the Hokies to just one NCAA tournament. James Johnson was 22-41 in his two-year stint.

It’s going to take time, though. Johnson didn’t leave much in the cupboard. Think of this as a similar situation that Frank Martin faced when he left Kansas State for South Carolina. It could be a couple more seasons of battling for the cellar.


But Williams also saw the handwriting on the wall. He had raised the expectations: five consecutive NCAA tourney appearances, two Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight. Marquette didn’t get in the postseason at all this season and the Golden Eagles will be worse off next season.

Now, Marquette is on the clock. The last go-around, the Golden Eagles pulled the shocker going with the anonymous Williams after Tom Crean left for Indiana.

I’ve been told that former UCLA coach Ben Howland will be in the mix. Syracuse coach-in-waiting Mike Hopkins might be in play. Former Marquette player and assistant Brian Wardle, now at Green Bay, will be in the equation. Wichita State’s Gregg Marshall, according to sources, would likely have interest. Dayton’s Archie Miller could also be in the equation.

Marquette might not be quite as attractive as it once was, but it’s still a job that will attract plenty of quality candidates.


Goodman is an idiot. Buzz was still getting pretty good recruits. Buzz and his ties to idiots like this one should have been the first red flag.

He was always looking out for Buzz.

In 5 years Buzz will be at a mid major and just a guy who once had a great team and a great program. Good riddance Buzz.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 09:02:31 PM »
Driving me nuts that espn and goodman are reporting new contract, but not mentioning that it is a pay cut

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2014, 09:04:22 PM »
Goodman = Buzz's PR guy. Been that way for a few years now. This is Buzz's spin.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2014, 09:07:02 PM »
Goodman is Buzz's butt buddy so I suspect this is the line form Buzz.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2014, 09:08:23 PM »
Buzz Williams was gone. Marquette’s head coach was frustrated with the new league and changes in administration. He wanted a change of scenery.

The old Big East was all-powerful. It had guys like Jim Boeheim and Rick Pitino and virtually unlimited exposure that allowed Williams to win recruiting wars against fellow high-major programs.

Now, the league has taken more hits. It began with the departure of Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame to the ACC – and a revamped league that included seven holdovers in addition to Creighton, Xavier and Butler.

Doug McDermott carried the league this season, but his career is coming to an end, and now one of its other faces is gone -- to Virginia Tech.

Yes, Virginia Tech.

Marquette is still a quality job, but it’s not the same as it was a year or so ago. Those are just the facts. Williams was disenchanted.

There was always speculation that Williams would wind up going back closer to home -- somewhere in the Texas area. Maybe even replace Texas Longhorns coach Rick Barnes someday.

Instead, he has bolted for a bottom-tier spot in the ACC.

Williams is a home run for new Hokies athletic director Whit Babcock. No, he’s a grand slam. Babcock came from Cincinnati, and Williams is close to Bearcats coach Mick Cronin. That might have been the hook, but the key was exposure and support.

The administration has changed. Marquette will bring in a new president and athletic director at some point soon, and that’s rarely a positive sign for a standing head coach. Usually, the newcomers want "their" guys.

Williams now goes to work for "his guy" in the country's premier league. He’ll make the Hokies relevant -- even if it’ll be difficult to crack the top four of the league with Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse and Louisville all in the ACC. Now Williams, who thrives on being counted out, gets to go up against Coach K, Roy and gets another shot at Boeheim and Pitino.

Unlike Marquette, Virginia Tech carries virtually no expectations. In nine seasons, Seth Greenberg took the Hokies to just one NCAA tournament. James Johnson was 22-41 in his two-year stint.

It’s going to take time, though. Johnson didn’t leave much in the cupboard. Think of this as a similar situation that Frank Martin faced when he left Kansas State for South Carolina. It could be a couple more seasons of battling for the cellar.


But Williams also saw the handwriting on the wall. He had raised the expectations: five consecutive NCAA tourney appearances, two Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight. Marquette didn’t get in the postseason at all this season and the Golden Eagles will be worse off next season.

Now, Marquette is on the clock. The last go-around, the Golden Eagles pulled the shocker going with the anonymous Williams after Tom Crean left for Indiana.

I’ve been told that former UCLA coach Ben Howland will be in the mix. Syracuse coach-in-waiting Mike Hopkins might be in play. Former Marquette player and assistant Brian Wardle, now at Green Bay, will be in the equation. Wichita State’s Gregg Marshall, according to sources, would likely have interest. Dayton’s Archie Miller could also be in the equation.

Marquette might not be quite as attractive as it once was, but it’s still a job that will attract plenty of quality candidates.


Please realize many coaches are only agents for themselves. What they say only promotes their own interest. Not to different in the business world. Good luck to Buzz but his decision is at a minimum an example of poor judgment. The BE and Marquette will be fine without him.



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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2014, 09:31:26 PM »
Goodman keeps saying tv deal. Every game has been on national tv. How many times did I want to see #1 ranked Syracuse play, but it was on espn3.  ::)

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2014, 09:34:04 PM »
Goodman keeps saying tv deal. Every game has been on national tv. How many times did I want to see #1 ranked Syracuse play, but it was on espn3.  ::)

Could it be that recruits told him its ESPN or as far as they are concerned, it's just like it's not on TV?

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2014, 09:35:09 PM »
Is it me or was that story written by a 7th grader?

Well, Goodman and Parrish are the ultimate slurpers so take it for what it is.

Something still very wrong with this whole thing, trying to get an answer to it.  If Buzz is so disenchanted, why go to Va. Tech?  Two other jobs opened up in the same league that have better upside and recruiting scenarios. 

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2014, 09:36:18 PM »
Goodman is an idiot. Buzz was still getting pretty good recruits. Buzz and his ties to idiots like this one should have been the first red flag.

He was always looking out for Buzz.



Been saying that for a few years now.....Buzz's mouthpiece.  Not what is said here, but who says the what.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2014, 09:37:38 PM »
Could it be that recruits told him its ESPN or as far as they are concerned, it's just like it's not on TV?

Maybe.  Anyone else remember that there was an anonymous BE coach who said "recruiting will take a hit with FS1.  Recruits want to be on ESPN.  This new league sucks."  We all came to the conclusion that it was Lavin, but perhaps it was Buzz!

Anyone well-versed in the search function want to help me find it?

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2014, 09:46:59 PM »
Well, Goodman and Parrish are the ultimate slurpers so take it for what it is.

Something still very wrong with this whole thing, trying to get an answer to it.  If Buzz is so disenchanted, why go to Va. Tech?  Two other jobs opened up in the same league that have better upside and recruiting scenarios. 

Agree. Buzz took a sh## job. I do not care that it's the ACC cuz VT is the DePaul of the ACC. Something else went down here.

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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2014, 09:47:11 PM »
Big East schools have done well on the recruiting trail since the new conference was announced. This is nothing more than B.S. spin.

Seriously, are we supposed to believe VaTech gets more exposure because the ACC has an ESPN deal? They had one game on ESPN all year, none on ESPN 2 and three on ESPNU.
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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2014, 09:49:26 PM »
Could it be that recruits told him its ESPN or as far as they are concerned, it's just like it's not on TV?
High School bb player are not sitting around watching college hoops. Buzz could sell ice to an eskimo. That every single game is on National TV!
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2014, 10:27:06 PM »
Agree. Buzz took a sh## job. I do not care that it's the ACC cuz VT is the DePaul of the ACC. Something else went down here.


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Re: ESPN Insider for Goodman Story?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2014, 10:42:03 PM »
Goodman is a hack