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Author Topic: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread  (Read 583353 times)

NavinRJohnson

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1250 on: October 24, 2014, 10:33:35 PM »
Because of the timing of the end of his contract, and the other available QB options out there, he was going to be paid like a top 5 QB by someone. And, as pointed out already, he was the best QB option for the Bears right now.

Be objective and tell us what you think they should have done differently.

Not saying I disagree with any of that. Franchise was an option, and frankly the one I thought they would use., but none of that really matters. Some are trying to say its not a bad contract, but no matter how or why they got there, it appears that it probably is. That's all.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1251 on: October 25, 2014, 06:58:50 AM »
Brian Urlacher's critique -- that Cutler is "elite" only in terms of how much money he earns jibes with responses from 26 coaches and personnel evaluators polled in the offseason. None of the 26 placed Cutler in the first tier. Ten put him in the second tier. Sixteen put him in the third tier. Cutler came in 17th out of the 32 quarterbacks projected to start in Week 1. He currently ranks 13th out of 35 qualifying quarterbacks in Total QBR.

This is the perfect Jay Cutler synopsis.

He is just good enough to have to be paid, just good enough to have to keep, just good enough to have to start, just good enough to cost coaches their jobs and just good enough to drive fans crazy.

And not quite good enough to lead a team to the playoffs.
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1252 on: October 26, 2014, 09:47:36 AM »
Hub seems to have it right again...

http://www.chicagofootball.com/2014/10/24/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-gm-phil-emery-calls-jay-cutler-elite/ab8bl74/?page=2

Have to admit, I kinda forgot about what they gave up in the trade as well...couple that with the fat contract, and there is plenty of legit criticism for Emery.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1253 on: October 26, 2014, 10:08:23 AM »
As a lifelong Lions let me suggest that whenever you start to get that feeling, lie down until it goes away.   And then bet the opposite.   

Same old Lions. 
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1254 on: October 26, 2014, 10:12:01 AM »
As soon as that Mosley news broke yesterday, I worried about the Lions. I figured one of these teams would no show, picked wrong one.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1255 on: October 26, 2014, 10:21:09 AM »
So the Seahawks may trade Marshawn Lynch.  Makes perfect sense to trade a back like him right now.  He will never be more valuable in that regard.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11767085/seattle-seahawks-tire-marshawn-lynch

But I found this interesting.

"Any "envy" directed toward Wilson in the locker room is more aligned with quarterback dynamics, including the fact the star quarterback has major marketing endorsements, sources said.

Wilson was asked by the organization if he could limit some of his endorsements but they were all filmed during the offseason and his CBA-driven base salary of $662,000 is about half of what backup Tarvaris Jackson makes."

So the players are upset at Wilson and his endorsements?  He is a Super Bowl winning quarterback!  And the club asked him to limit those endorsements?  Very odd.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1256 on: October 26, 2014, 10:38:09 AM »


So the players are upset at Wilson and his endorsements?  He is a Super Bowl winning quarterback!  And the club asked him to limit those endorsements?  Very odd.

If you cut off the bellow part of the article as you did, I can see how you would arrive at that conclusion. Not sure why you would do that, as it Seems to me it is saying the exact opposite...


Some of Wilson's income footed the bill to fly his receivers to California for offseason workouts when they were not allowed on facility grounds. Otherwise, in-season, team sources said that he's all football, except for the time he spends at Seattle's Children Hospital on Tuesdays. The so-called divided locker room is very much overstated, sources said.


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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1257 on: October 26, 2014, 10:45:52 AM »
If you cut off the bellow part of the article as you did, I can see how you would arrive at that conclusion. Not sure why you would do that, as it Seems to me it is saying the exact opposite...


Some of Wilson's income footed the bill to fly his receivers to California for offseason workouts when they were not allowed on facility grounds. Otherwise, in-season, team sources said that he's all football, except for the time he spends at Seattle's Children Hospital on Tuesdays. The so-called divided locker room is very much overstated, sources said.




I don't think that was there when I quoted it.  It looks as though it was updated just a minute or so after my post.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1258 on: October 26, 2014, 11:37:43 AM »
On every account, one of the all time dumbest finishes to a game, by both teams.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1259 on: October 26, 2014, 11:39:08 AM »
On every account, one of the all time dumbest finishes to a game, by both teams.


Ridiculous mis-management by Atlanta.  And then Lions got lucky even though they had plenty of time to make that FG shorter.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1260 on: October 26, 2014, 11:39:23 AM »
Agreed.   The Falcons out-Lioned the Lions.   Surreal.   Hopefully, Detroit can get healthy in the next 2 weeks.  
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1261 on: October 26, 2014, 11:48:19 AM »
Lots of hate on here for your NFC North leader Detroit Lions
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1262 on: October 26, 2014, 11:51:57 AM »
Lots of hate on here for your NFC North leader Detroit Lions


Don't really hate the Lions.  I wanted them to lose because it helps Green Bay.

I think the Caldwell hire was good for them.  Caldwell isn't a big xs and os guy, but I think his demeanor is exactly what they needed - less volatility. 

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1263 on: October 26, 2014, 11:58:55 AM »
Lots of hate on here for your NFC North leader Detroit Lions

I've been a Lions fan for 40 years.  1 Playoff win in that time.   I have seen ways to lose that I have never seen in games involving teams that aren't the Lions.   I have learned that the most painful thing you can do as a Lions fan is to believe.    They have found ways to win the last two games that are usually the ways they lose.   That is not enough to make me believe.
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1264 on: October 26, 2014, 01:32:52 PM »
Anyone any closer to closing the book on this cutler discussion? #unacceptable

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1265 on: October 26, 2014, 01:37:08 PM »
I would be very surprised if Emery doesn't make coaching changes during this bye week. All three teams (offense, defense and special teams) are a mess.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1266 on: October 26, 2014, 01:41:52 PM »
Blessing in disguise, if you're not going to the playoffs, best to be really bad.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1267 on: October 26, 2014, 02:04:35 PM »
They can't bring trestman back next year, can they?

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1268 on: October 26, 2014, 02:18:26 PM »
They can't bring trestman back next year, can they?

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1269 on: October 26, 2014, 02:21:51 PM »
Coach Killer Jay

Bears Defense has given up 38 points today, FYI.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1270 on: October 26, 2014, 02:27:48 PM »
Jay or no Jay, just appears to me trestman isn't up to the job.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1271 on: October 26, 2014, 02:39:18 PM »
Bears Defense has given up 38 points today, FYI.

And the offense with these insane weapons has 15.
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1272 on: October 26, 2014, 02:44:16 PM »
And the offense with these insane weapons has 15.

Don't be football stupid.

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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1273 on: October 26, 2014, 02:46:35 PM »
Don't be football stupid.

I get it, Jay is far from the only problem with this Chicago Bears team. It just seems to me that Jay continues to get passes while teams continue to go through coaches trying to find something that will work for him.
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Re: 2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread
« Reply #1274 on: October 26, 2014, 02:52:25 PM »
That Houston sack dance/injury pretty much sums up the Bears defense today.

 

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