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tower912

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5 years before you judge a coach
« on: March 17, 2012, 07:19:11 PM »
Can we safely dispense with the 5th year and make a judgement now?    Great coaching job by Buzz.   Great effort and hustle by Murray St.   But Buzz took their 3 pt shooters off of their spots.    Best defensive job I have seen from a Buzz-coached MU team.    Way to go, Buzz. 
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MUMac

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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 07:21:41 PM »
Nope.  Have to wait until next year.  That is the tell tale.  An "expert" told us that.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 07:24:37 PM »
I knew the first year that Buzz was the "right guy."  All of the big three, plus Lazar and Burke improved dramatically when Buzz took over.  While I am not a Crean ''hater'' I would take Buzz over him any day of the week. 
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 07:36:30 PM »
If you're still waiting for five years at this point, you might as well wait twenty.  The answer to the puzzle is right in front of us all.
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tower912

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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 07:43:10 PM »
I made my judgement years ago.    ;D
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 07:47:45 PM »
A real diamond in the rough!
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MUMac

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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 07:52:04 PM »
Quote from: BenCat12 on March 17, 2012, 07:24:37 PM
I knew the first year that Buzz was the "right guy."  All of the big three, plus Lazar and Burke improved dramatically when Buzz took over.  While I am not a Crean ''hater'' I would take Buzz over him any day of the week. 
Yep.  That is when I made my decision.  Watching how he coached those three.  The offense he ran.  The defense.  Stopping Lazar from committing the silly fouls that would keep him on the bench.

The final piece was when I heard from some people about how the Amigo's felt about Buzz.  Particularly Wes.  How they were happy with the change and would do anything for Buzz.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 08:00:34 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on March 17, 2012, 07:19:11 PM
Best defensive job I have seen from a Buzz-coached MU team.    Way to go, Buzz. 

Most amazing part is we did it on national TV!
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 08:16:29 PM »
Sure hope he doesn't burn out. His voice sounded awful after the game.  I marvel at how big time college coaches handle it.  From having to kiss some 15 year old kid's ego to bat sh:t crazy fans to scheduling the right set of cup cakes, to dealing with with behavior problems of college aged men, to lane violations.  I'd be an alcoholic.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 08:18:51 PM »
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 17, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
Sure hope he doesn't burn out. His voice sounded awful after the game.  I marvel at how big time college coaches handle it.  From having to kiss some 15 year old kid's ego to bat sh:t crazy fans to scheduling the right set of cup cakes, to dealing with with behavior problems of college aged men, to lane violations.  I'd be an alcoholic.

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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 08:19:48 PM »
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 17, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
Sure hope he doesn't burn out. His voice sounded awful after the game.  I marvel at how big time college coaches handle it.  From having to kiss some 15 year old kid's ego to bat sh:t crazy fans to scheduling the right set of cup cakes, to dealing with with behavior problems of college aged men, to lane violations.  I'd be an alcoholic.

Apparently Mike Deane figured the same!

Is the hiring process still flawed as well?!?
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 08:23:56 PM »
Quote from: jmayer1 on March 17, 2012, 08:19:48 PM
Apparently Mike Deane figured the same!

Is the hiring process still flawed as well?!?

Yes, you need to bring a bunch of mid-major coaches in for interviews.  How they answer your questions means more than what you see in front of your eyes.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 08:37:16 PM »
Whoa, anyone see Buzz on TBS game break?  All choked up about his wife/kids, etc.  dude needs a long nap.  With the snoring aide thingy.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 08:42:53 PM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 17, 2012, 07:47:45 PM
A real diamond in the rough!

Not in the rough, I would say.  Maybe a few years ago, but today Coach Buzz is in the middle of the freeking fairway!   ;D
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 08:45:58 PM »
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 17, 2012, 08:37:16 PM
Whoa, anyone see Buzz on TBS game break?  All choked up about his wife/kids, etc.  dude needs a long nap.  With the snoring aide thingy.
I kinda agree. Somebody needs to talk to him and get him some sleep.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 08:56:21 PM »
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 17, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
Not in the rough, I would say.  Maybe a few years ago, but today Coach Buzz is in the middle of the freeking fairway!   ;D
Pin high, 2' from the cup.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 08:56:37 PM »
People can judge Buzz as a coach whenever they wish, but I made my judgment last year, and it's been reinforced this year. Once upon a time, Buzz said he'd "stay as long as they'll have me." Well, I hope he retires here. Granted, not every day will be as joyful as this one was, but I'm confident there will be more good than bad, and more important, I'm confident we'll always be proud of who our coach is as a person and the kinds of young men he is developing.
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MUMac

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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 08:59:57 PM »
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 17, 2012, 08:37:16 PM
Whoa, anyone see Buzz on TBS game break?  All choked up about his wife/kids, etc.  dude needs a long nap.  With the snoring aide thingy.
He's an emotional coach.  Why would the PC be any different?  That doesn't mean he needs a nap.  He is and always will be emotional.  That is much of his charm.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 09:01:58 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
People can judge Buzz as a coach whenever they wish, but I made my judgment last year, and it's been reinforced this year. Once upon a time, Buzz said he'd "stay as long as they'll have me." Well, I hope he retires here. Granted, not every day will be as joyful as this one was, but I'm confident there will be more good than bad, and more important, I'm confident we'll always be proud of who our coach is as a person and the kinds of young men he is developing.

Well said, Brewcity.   :)
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2012, 09:03:36 PM »
Quote from: MUMac on March 17, 2012, 08:59:57 PM
He's an emotional coach.  Why would the PC be any different?  That doesn't mean he needs a nap.  He is and always will be emotional.  That is much of his charm.

Did you see it?  I love the guy, but he clearly was exhausted.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2012, 09:06:49 PM »
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 17, 2012, 09:03:36 PM
Did you see it?  I love the guy, but he clearly was exhausted.
Yes, I did.  He was choking up quite a bit as well.  He wears his emotions on his sleeve.  Not many coaches do.  Most are guarded in their comments and don't let you into their life.  That is what I love about Buzz.  It is also why he can look the way he does, as it is far different than any other coach.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2012, 09:11:36 PM »
I always believe in giving a guy a chance. One of the things I reality like about Buzz is he is not a Frank Martin type. By that I mean he does not scream in a players face.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2012, 09:14:29 PM »
He did sound pretty wiped out.

Think he'll retire after we win the national championship in a few weeks?  It's happened before.
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2012, 09:15:33 PM »
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 17, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
He did sound pretty wiped out.

Think he'll retire after we win the national championship in a few weeks?  It's happened before.

But it was announced before it all happened.

As far as this thread go, we won't get the opportunity to judge him after 5 years.  4 is all we get.  He's going to Illinois.  I mean, Texas.  I mean, Southern Illinois.  I mean...
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Re: 5 years before you judge a coach
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2012, 09:37:48 PM »
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 17, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
He did sound pretty wiped out.

Think he'll retire after we win the national championship in a few weeks?  It's happened before.

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