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Big East Play Thread by forgetful
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Now the gauntlet. by MuEagle1090
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6.5 dogs at Creighton... by wadesworld
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Greg Elliott
« Last post by Dr. Blackheart on January 20, 2017, 09:02:24 PM »
I know it's a bit off topic but why does it seem that a lot of the 90s greats just aren't involved outside of Mac? Like I never hear anything about Tony smith or Amal mccaskill Or Chris Crawford being involved with the program while we hear of basically every other era being pretty involved.

I actually see more of them at the Buzz BBQ than any other decade. You just don't recognize them but they are United in their hate of KO (and love).
Hangin' at the Al / Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
« Last post by brewcity77 on January 20, 2017, 09:00:07 PM »
Probably end up wrong, but expecting a close first half, then we pull away late. Just think losing their point guard will be too much.
Hangin' at the Al / Re: Now the gauntlet.
« Last post by Dr. Blackheart on January 20, 2017, 08:59:18 PM »
Wojo will win us 2 of the last two!

The Superbar / Re: Is Going To College Worth It?
« Last post by Yukon Cornelius on January 20, 2017, 08:59:09 PM »
I seriously doubt more than 10% of MU students pay anywhere near sticker price. A good part time job will cover most living expenses

Actually I underestimated MU's costs ...

201617 undergraduate tuition and costs

Cost of Attendance   $53,218
Tuition and Fees       $38,470
Room and Board      $11,440
Books and Supplies  $1,008
Other Expenses        $2,300

71% of the undergraduates get financial aid so 29% pay the sticker price ($212k for four years), not less than 10%.

The 79% getting financial aid get an average of $25,701/year in aid meaning that still pay $27,517/yr in costs ($53,218 - $25,701).  This is $110,168 for 4 years. (higher if costs go up)

The average amount of debt for a 2015 graduate was $37,048 (meaning that half had more).  So that means Mom and Dad forked over $70k to $125k over four years to leave Junior with an average of $37k in debt

Do you say the same thing about car prices, home values etc., no, so why apply it here it makes no sense.  There are loans for every type of major purchase.  That is part of the whole system of supply, demand and financing.

So is the idea of luxury (ivy league), which demand a premium, even though they typically do not actually provide a better product (not true in terms of top schools, which do provide a better product). 

College education prices follow supply and demand. That is why there is so much pressure on higher education institutions to keep price increases at less than 5% annually.  If they do not, demand will fall.

Are you asking if home debt skewed home prices?  Where you in a coma from 2006 to 2010, the financial crisis?

Your last line is correct, college tuition is priced like art or Jewelry.  If it does not cost a ton of money, it must not be good.   So we base our perception of what is a good school by how much it costs.
The Superbar / Re: Big Ten Universities Entering a New Realm: E-Sports
« Last post by PTM on January 20, 2017, 08:58:01 PM »
Sounds like the professional paint-ballers I've known.

I got paid to play, what's the problem with that?
The Superbar / Re: Which smoker to buy
« Last post by real chili 83 on January 20, 2017, 08:40:56 PM »
That's directionally correct.  Wet meat (easy never) will reject smoke sooner.  Dry meat on the surface will absorb more. I keep smoke going throughout the 8-12 horse for a brisket....doesn't hurt. 

SPW, do you want to weigh in here?
Hangin' at the Al / Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
« Last post by MuMark on January 20, 2017, 08:33:18 PM »
Opened at 5 or 5 1/2
The Superbar / Re: Big Ten Universities Entering a New Realm: E-Sports
« Last post by ChitownSpaceForRent on January 20, 2017, 07:56:48 PM »
Except the only one who beats esports in viewer ship is nascar. Esports is very close to mainstream at this point. Just have to see if it will last.

It will. Go on YouTube one day and just type in "let's play." The people who do that aren't anywhere near professional and get a million views on videos. Like someone said earlier, just a different form of entertainment.
The Superbar / Re: Which smoker to buy
« Last post by manny31 on January 20, 2017, 07:42:51 PM »
I have been operating under the assumption that meat(I assume any/most meats) won't absorb any more smoke after about an hour or so. Any truth to that?
Hangin' at the Al / Re: Now the gauntlet.
« Last post by ChitownSpaceForRent on January 20, 2017, 07:37:14 PM »
i show MU +5.5.  honestly seems like a suckers bet (not in a good way)

Vegas is usually spot on, and I know they place their line based on betting trends, but the worst line I ever saw was when Iowa was +1 last year at MU. Only time I ever bet against Marquette and the easiest money I've ever made.
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