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 21 
 on: Today at 05:37:55 PM 
Started by mstang917 - Last post by MUCam
#2 - The public comments about Buzz were foolish and showed a remarkable lack of organizational understanding and leadership. Whatever the pissing match between Buzz and LW may have been, and regardless of who was more in the right in the "whole story" situation, Buzz never aired the grievances publicly (until he left MU, of course).

#1 and #3 go hand in hand. And, unfortunately, the same lack of awareness and leadership that created #2 are what made #1 and #3 so obviously present in LW's tenure.

Trust me when I tell you that #2 did not affect LW's complete inability to politic in the proper manner with the BOT and the major donors. The big players behind the MU curtain couldn't care less about #2. But, #2 was another piece of evidence exemplifying LW's lack of leadership skills from a fundraising and politicking point of view.

Let's face it; the AD at a major university with a strong athletic presence can't just be good at directing the athletics. He has to be the face of the department. He has to know when to kiss rings and know how to kiss rings. LW had none of that charm or gravitas and whether you like it or not, same is required once you get to that level.

You can't be a major level AD and not know how to play the game. LW did not know how to play the game.

EDIT: As a side note, LW will never receive enough credit for some of the good things he did. That said, he was, in many ways, a bumbling Neanderthal when it came to slimier side of the business.

 22 
 on: Today at 04:57:50 PM 
Started by mstang917 - Last post by The Sultan of Sunshine
It very well could be argued that because of #2, LW was never really given a fair shot.  It seems to me that he did some good work later on with regarding to helping MU and the new Big East, and his latter interviews were much more polished than the earlier ones.

That being said, #1 was big...big enough to lose his job.  And since a new President was going to be named, it was probably best that MU went with a fresh start.

 23 
 on: Today at 04:55:19 PM 
Started by mstang917 - Last post by jesmu84
The public comments about Buzz should have been seen as prescient to most people here. 

Do you think Cords is polished enough?  I'm a fan of his, but people have different definitions of polished.  Some people hate over polished people as coming across as fake, or like politicians.  Others don't like blunt speakers and call them unpolished, when in reality they just tell it like it is.  There are grey areas for all of this.

I'm not going to disagree with #1, there is truth to it.  Number 2 is a red herring.....far more could have been said and what was said was benign.  The defenders of Burt lost their collective minds, but if the defenders of Burt knew the whole story they would be asking for a mea culpa.

#3....that goes back to the polished commentary.   



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 24 
 on: Today at 04:51:39 PM 
Started by mstang917 - Last post by ChicosBailBonds
Whether Buzz was a fraud or the real deal, whether Mayo left in disgrace or simply made a business decision, none of those things affect the following:

(1) LW's complete inability to connect with the Marquette BOT and the big MU donors;
(2) LW's public comments (whether warranted or not) about Marquette's head coach wherein he criticized him in a newspaper;
(3) LW's overall lack of gravitas and appearance of professionalism.

These are the main reasons LW was shown the door. LW was instrumental in pulling Marquette through the Big East fall apart and had a decent role in the formation of the New Big East. He certainly did some things right and was effective at times. That said, LW wasn't polished enough for Marquette's AD position and it showed. MU reached when they hired LW and they suffered the consequences.

The public comments about Buzz should have been seen as prescient to most people here. 

Do you think Cords is polished enough?  I'm a fan of his, but people have different definitions of polished.  Some people hate over polished people as coming across as fake, or like politicians.  Others don't like blunt speakers and call them unpolished, when in reality they just tell it like it is.  There are grey areas for all of this.

I'm not going to disagree with #1, there is truth to it.  Number 2 is a red herring.....far more could have been said and what was said was benign.  The defenders of Burt lost their collective minds, but if the defenders of Burt knew the whole story they would be asking for a mea culpa.

#3....that goes back to the polished commentary.   


 25 
 on: Today at 04:45:47 PM 
Started by Aircraftcarrier - Last post by Johnny Basketball
That should be: "Really, man?"

Kidding, kidding. The grammar police are the worst. Most of us are typing on a phone with one finger through the fog of a hangover and with one eye on the TV.

This isn't for a grade and it is a long way from the New York Times.
Right, this guy brings back an old thread just to piss me off, I mean get a life.

 26 
 on: Today at 04:39:32 PM 
Started by mstang917 - Last post by MUCam
LW was not the devil some have made him out to be.

Whether Buzz was a fraud or the real deal, whether Mayo left in disgrace or simply made a business decision, none of those things affect the following:

(1) LW's complete inability to connect with the Marquette BOT and the big MU donors;
(2) LW's public comments (whether warranted or not) about Marquette's head coach wherein he criticized him in a newspaper;
(3) LW's overall lack of gravitas and appearance of professionalism.

These are the main reasons LW was shown the door. LW was instrumental in pulling Marquette through the Big East fall apart and had a decent role in the formation of the New Big East. He certainly did some things right and was effective at times. That said, LW wasn't polished enough for Marquette's AD position and it showed. MU reached when they hired LW and they suffered the consequences.

 27 
 on: Today at 04:25:17 PM 
Started by Black Swan - Last post by 4everwarriors
Did these managers work for Majerus too, hey?

 28 
 on: Today at 04:15:33 PM 
Started by Black Swan - Last post by TAMU Eagle
I would guess that one of the former managers here could confirm or deny but I was told that Buzz really treated them poorly. Among other indignities he would take a dump and refuse to flush. He would make the managers take care of it.

Couldn't be us. Mixing basketball and fecal matter is UWGB's territory

 29 
 on: Today at 04:07:06 PM 
Started by Black Swan - Last post by Black Swan
I have my doubts about whether toilets would be flushed or left for a manager to flush for Bert, but I do know that when Bert arrived at the Al he pulled right up to the doors and then had an assistant coach (or maybe it was a manager) get in and park his car for him.  Does that mean he had a driver who also put on his coat for him when he went recruiting?  No.  But he apparently doesn't like to have to walk a half block from where he parked to get into work.



I do not disagree. But I really don't know why the people, and they were different people, that told me the stories would make it up. There would be zero reason for them to do that. I did say that the managers would be able to confirm or deny.

 30 
 on: Today at 03:51:04 PM 
Started by Black Swan - Last post by wadesworld
I have my doubts about whether toilets would be flushed or left for a manager to flush for Bert, but I do know that when Bert arrived at the Al he pulled right up to the doors and then had an assistant coach (or maybe it was a manager) get in and park his car for him.  Does that mean he had a driver who also put on his coat for him when he went recruiting?  No.  But he apparently doesn't like to have to walk a half block from where he parked to get into work.

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