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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Creighton
« Last post by Benny B on Today at 04:02:57 PM »
Is the explanation the same for the remaining 3/4ths of the arena that is sparsely populated?

The distinction there is that most of those tickets were never sold.  Of course, I assume that MU has sold most, if not all, of the student tickets.

I think you're reading a little too deeply into this. It is far more simple. The team isn't great and students would rather do other stuff. I would still rather go to the game, but it doesn't mean they have a character flaw.

I'm not saying anyone has a character flaw.  Perhaps those of us who are more focused on the camaraderie and pre/post game rather than the outcome of the game (or name of the opponent) are the ones who are flawed.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Creighton
« Last post by The Sultan of Sunshine on Today at 04:02:41 PM »
I think you're reading a little too deeply into this. It is far more simple. The team isn't great and students would rather do other stuff. I would still rather go to the game, but it doesn't mean they have a character flaw.

Exactly.  Students don't have some sort of moral imperative to support Marquette basketball.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: State of the program now...
« Last post by dgies9156 on Today at 04:01:56 PM »
Interesting question about the state of the program. I'd argue this:

1) We're in transition. The transition started with Buzz's last year, when he basically mailed it in and when Vander elected to bolt for the D-Leagues. We're still deep in it, though there is beginning to appear light at the end of the tunnel.

2) Wojo is an incredible recruiter. I've been impressed. Now, can he coach? There are times when I feel like he really is Coach K Jr., and there are times when I wonder whether he is Mike Deane II. Fortunately, we have seen more of the Coach K legacy as of late. Games like Providence tell me he's getting there. Games like Xavier tell me that if he had sophomores or juniors instead of freshmen, we'd be Top 20!

3) The effect of Henry is an interesting debate. We all know he is good. In fact, he's better when he's part of a team effort and not trying to do it all himself or prove he belongs in the NBA. Even Michael Jordan was better and did more when he got the most from his teammates!

4) If Henry leaves, it may not be Hiroshima. In some ways, there is a tendency to "Let Henry do It" on this team. When it doubt, find Henry and let him go at it. When Henry leaves, whether it be in 2016 or 2017, or 2018 for that matter (I can hope!), the question will be "who will step up?"

5) The closest parallel I can imagine to where we are with Henry was the Jim Chones situation in 1972. Chones was an All-American and probably the second best center in the nation (to Bill Walton). Our team was explosive with Chones and lost without him. We made the NCAA but lost in the second round to the Bigot at the University of Kentucky. The interlude was only about two years as the recruitment of Maurice Lucas and Bo Ellis got Marquette into the National Championship in 1974 (and, yes, we made the tournament in 1973, losing to Bobby Knight's first team at Indiana in Nashville). What we don't know if that if Henry leaves, what's the short-term and intermediate-term card Coach Wojo has up his sleeve. He's a bright guy and I'm sure he has something cooking.

All in all, the state of our program is improving. With a little luck and a little more Henry, we'll be where we think we ought to be. With a lot more Henry, we might be VERY, VERY good! Yeah, I know, I can hope.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: What is the ceiling for Traci?
« Last post by TAMU Eagle on Today at 04:01:29 PM »
I'm high on Carter. The way he can dribble through the middle of the defense is something we never saw in junior or Derrick. I think he will end up being a better shooter than Dom. If he can learn to finish at the rim consistently, he'll be the best since Diener.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: Creighton
« Last post by Coleman on Today at 03:58:32 PM »
+1

Kids today have grown up in a world where everyone is a winner and everyone gets a trophy... incidentally, this was to remove the winning/losing aspect and make things more fun.  The flip side to that is now - as spectators - when they watch a competitive sport (where there is a winner and a loser), they not only find losing to not be fun, some kids simply cannot deal with supporting a losing team on an emotional level and therefore, they are turned away from being a fan at all.

I think you're reading a little too deeply into this. It is far more simple. The team isn't great and students would rather do other stuff. I would still rather go to the game, but it doesn't mean they have a character flaw.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: State of the program now...
« Last post by 79Warrior on Today at 03:55:10 PM »
How anyone can believe the team can be better without HE is insanity. His numbers are off the charts and against great competition. He made Luke better and without HE I think Luke struggles again next season. I want to enjoy watching Henry the next few weeks and really afraid to think about next season.

I agree with you. We will have to have some guys improve dramatically (sandy Cohen for example) for this team to be better.
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Hangin' at the Al / Re: State of the program now...
« Last post by TAMU Eagle on Today at 03:53:35 PM »
TAMU

You know the game well but think you are missing one point on HE. He flat out makes it easier for everyone on the court. He has made Luke better, opened lanes for HC and everyone else. Aside from HE, IMO only HC, DW, JJJ and Luke are mid to upper level D 1 players. This is not a stacked team with HE and might struggle big time without him.

I think you are vastly underestimating the rest of the team. They are inconsistent but all of them have shown that they can not only contribute but be very good at this level. What they lack is consistency and experience.

Haanif would be a front-runner for be roy if it weren't for Henry. Duane is maddeningly inconsistent but is fearless and has shown the ability to take over a game. JJJ is finally showing us why he was so highly rated. Luke is the best true center in the BEast.

I noticed you left off Sandy and Traci. Sandy has struggled in BEast party but he has shown his athleticism and shooting touch. If he puts it together, he will be very dangerous. I know you don't like Traci but he is going to be our best PG since Diener by the time all is said and done. He can do things with the ball that we haven't seen a of do in years. Hes inconsistent but ifs going to be very good.

Heldt, Anim, and Wally havent shown as much but each have the making of at least being a solid contributor off the bench in the future. Heldt looks just like those project bigs that Bo was always getting and developing into stars.

Henry is very very good. Best player on the team. You are right, he makes everyone else better.  But he is replaceable. His absence is not greater than the growth we will see from the rest of team and the addition of Rowsey and Hauser. We'd be much much better with him but we will still be good without him.

I get the argument that we will be so bad at rebounding that it will negate our growth in other areas. I don't agree with it, I think we will compensate. But I don't understand the argument that one player outweighs the value that every other player will bring.
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