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Title: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 05, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
FS1 post game said Markus is the first play in MU history to score 90 points over three games. 

Not D-Wade, Not Crowder, Not Doc ...

Congrats to MH
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: warriorchick on December 05, 2017, 08:10:46 PM


his defense tho
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: auburnmarquette on December 05, 2017, 08:20:18 PM
FS1 post game said Markus is the first play in MU history to score 90 points over three games. 

Not D-Wade, Not Crowder, Not Doc ...

Congrats to MH

Wow, and how many minutes did he play in the first half against uga? More like 90 in 2 1-2 games.

Btw, was really great to be the only Marquette fans living in Auburn so we could take grief from my UGA fans after the basketball game and then again after the sec championship,
and then have the rival Alabama team we just hammered the week before selected while they were taking the day off. No really, it was great.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: NickelDimer on December 05, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
And he’s only getting better
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: lostpassword on December 05, 2017, 08:29:20 PM
Wow, and how many minutes did he play in the first half against uga? More like 90 in 2 1-2

Homer says 81 minutes. 96 points.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 05, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
Homer says 81 minutes. 96 points.

Kid is special
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2017, 09:47:43 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the announcers said he was the only player in MU history - since 2000 - to do it.

Which would explain why they only named Wade, Wes, Crowder, etc, but not Lee, Thompson, Kojis, etc.

I don't know that anybody else did it, but maybe somebody did. Maybe they only had since-2000 stats handy. I'm sure somebody will flesh out the stats before 2000.

I always get frustrated when NFL announcers talk about the all-time sacks list - rarely noting that the official sack stat dates back only to 1983. I'm guessing Deacon Jones had a shyte-ton of sacks. Or blocked shots. Does anybody really think Russell and Wilt didn't have more career blocks than anybody ever? It just wasn't an "official" stat back then.

Not to take anything away from Markus at all. He's been a stud.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 06, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the announcers said he was the only player in MU history - since 2000 - to do it.

Which would explain why they only named Wade, Wes, Crowder, etc, but not Lee, Thompson, Kojis, etc.

I don't know that anybody else did it, but maybe somebody did. Maybe they only had since-2000 stats handy. I'm sure somebody will flesh out the stats before 2000.

I always get frustrated when NFL announcers talk about the all-time sacks list - rarely noting that the official sack stat dates back only to 1983. I'm guessing Deacon Jones had a shyte-ton of sacks. Or blocked shots. Does anybody really think Russell and Wilt didn't have more career blocks than anybody ever? It just wasn't an "official" stat back then.

Not to take anything away from Markus at all. He's been a stud.

I did not hear that qualifier and I have you doubt you did.  Curious, why only go back to 2000?  We have game box scores and schedules much further back than 2000.

I get why sacks only go back to 1983 ... because that is when we started recording sacks as a stat.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Skitch on December 06, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
Tony Smith had 97 in 1989-90

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/938464521961852929
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Benny B on December 06, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
I did not hear that qualifier and I have you doubt you did.  Curious, why only go back to 2000?  We have game box scores and schedules much further back than 2000.

I get why sacks only go back to 1983 ... because that is when we started recording sacks as a stat.

Doesn't football keep play-by-play archives?  What's keeping the NFL from going back and simply matching-up any play where there was no pass attempt or hand-off that resulted in a loss of yardage and counting those as sacks?  Sure, you'd miss any sacks from tackles for a loss of less than a yard, but the vast majority would be accounted for, no?
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2017, 12:22:37 PM
Tony Smith had 97 in 1989-90

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/938464521961852929


However, did he have three straight 30+ games.

Anyway, in a vain attempt to find boxscores for these games, I found this article:

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/03/08/Loyola-67-St-Louis-58-Dayton-90-Detroit-72-Evansville-66-Marquette-57/1188636872400/

"Chris Mack led the foul shooting in the last two minutes Thursday night to lead Evansville to a 66-57 win over Marquette in a quarterfinal game of the Midwestern Collegiate Conference tournament."

Yes...it's *that* Chris Mack who transferred to Xavier the next year.  I also remember having a "listening party" for that game in my apartment.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 06, 2017, 12:42:36 PM

However, did he have three straight 30+ games.

Anyway, in a vain attempt to find boxscores for these games, I found this article:

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/03/08/Loyola-67-St-Louis-58-Dayton-90-Detroit-72-Evansville-66-Marquette-57/1188636872400/

"Chris Mack led the foul shooting in the last two minutes Thursday night to lead Evansville to a 66-57 win over Marquette in a quarterfinal game of the Midwestern Collegiate Conference tournament."

Yes...it's *that* Chris Mack who transferred to Xavier the next year.  I also remember having a "listening party" for that game in my apartment.

Now that sounds like a dark dark time
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: MU82 on December 06, 2017, 12:44:11 PM
Tony Smith had 97 in 1989-90

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/938464521961852929

Thanks for providing this.

Markus is impressive enough without folks creating make-believe "records" for him.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2017, 12:46:26 PM
Now that sounds like a dark dark time


Why do you think I don't go nuts every time they lose a game?
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 06, 2017, 12:47:28 PM
I also remember having a "listening party" for that game in my apartment.

Now that sounds like a dark dark time

Dark times indeed ... 1989/1990 ... Dahmer was down the street from Sultan's "listening party" eating people?
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: tower912 on December 06, 2017, 01:13:30 PM

Why do you think I don't go nuts every time they lose a game?
84-88.   Two years of Majerus, two years of Dukiet.    I have peered into the abyss.    This isn't the abyss.     Could very well have gone the way of Loyola, Chicago.   
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 06, 2017, 03:15:42 PM
84-88.   Two years of Majerus, two years of Dukiet.    I have peered into the abyss.    This isn't the abyss.     Could very well have gone the way of Loyola, Chicago.   

Which has a better team than DePaul.  If we could only make the switch. Loyola would improve in the Big East while DePaul may have improved to the point of having the very best last place team in Big East history.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: warriorchick on December 06, 2017, 08:03:59 PM
Which has a better team than DePaul.  If we could only make the switch. Loyola would improve in the Big East while DePaul may have improved to the point of having the very best last place team in Big East history.

No way.

Loyola plays in an arena that is only slightly larger that the AL, and they have an average attendance  last year of 1,800 fans, which is a third of DePaul's.  Why would the Big East want that?

I am old enough to remember when Marquette and Loyola used to play at a reasonably full Chicago Stadium. 
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 06, 2017, 08:07:01 PM
Which has a better team than DePaul.  If we could only make the switch. Loyola would improve in the Big East while DePaul may have improved to the point of having the very best last place team in Big East history.

Loyola has like zero basketball tradition. They had one good championship run, a random sweet sixteen and that’s it. 5 NCAA appearances and 4 NITs would put them farrrrrr behind the rest of the conference
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 06, 2017, 09:42:24 PM
Uh, Loyola just beat #5 Florida in Gainsville.  Hmm...
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: real chili 83 on December 06, 2017, 09:50:03 PM
Uh, Loyola just beat #5 Florida in Gainsville.  Hmm...

He's young. Forgive him.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2017, 06:25:39 AM
Uh, Loyola just beat #5 Florida in Gainsville.  Hmm...

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once and awhile
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: tower912 on December 07, 2017, 07:11:41 AM
When is the last time Loyola beat a ranked team?    When is the last time you thought about Loyola?  And I was there when we were losing to Loyola.   Back to back years.   Road tripped down to Chicago even to watch a loss.   Losing at  home my senior year.    Good times.   
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2017, 07:45:03 AM
When is the last time Loyola beat a ranked team?    When is the last time you thought about Loyola?  And I was there when we were losing to Loyola.   Back to back years.   Road tripped down to Chicago even to watch a loss.   Losing at  home my senior year.    Good times.   

According to their twitter their last win over top 5 was 1984
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: warriorchick on December 07, 2017, 08:27:49 AM
Fun fact I learned while looking up the capacity of the Joe Gentile arena:

Loyola is the only school in the state of Illinois to have won an NCAA championship in basketball.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2017, 08:34:06 AM
Fun fact I learned while looking up the capacity of the Joe Gentile arena:

Loyola is the only school in the state of Illinois to have won an NCAA championship in basketball.

I thought that was common knowledge

Despite all the D1 schools the only two with legitimate history are U of I and Depaul, maybe SIU to but never championship caliber.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Benny B on December 07, 2017, 09:36:52 AM
When is the last time you thought about Loyola?

Actually, I was thinking about Loyola yesterday while reading that they shut down the 405 due to the fires.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: tower912 on December 07, 2017, 11:07:45 AM
Actually, I was thinking about Loyola yesterday while reading that they shut down the 405 due to the fires.

Loyola Marymount.    Nice. 
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Benny B on December 07, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
Did you know that Loyola Marymount is only a half hour drive from Mount St. Mary's?  But not the Mount St. Mary's you're thinking of.  You're thinking of the other Mount St. Mary's which is about an hour away from Loyola.  But not the Loyola you're thinking of.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: KampusFoods on December 07, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
Did you know that Loyola Marymount is only a half hour drive from Mount St. Mary's?  But not the Mount St. Mary's you're thinking of.  You're thinking of the other Mount St. Mary's which is about an hour away from Loyola.  But not the Loyola you're thinking of.

(https://i.imgur.com/itMcsy5.gif)
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 07, 2017, 12:41:44 PM
Older Bro put a hurting on Cal.

Woulda been nice to have him on the squad as well

Even nicer we avoided playing Cal. God they suck
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 07, 2017, 01:28:15 PM
Older Bro put a hurting on Cal.

Woulda been nice to have him on the squad as well

Even nicer we avoided playing Cal. God they suck

Wow. Central Arkansas beat them by near 30. Anyone still pining for Cuonzo?
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2017, 01:40:08 PM
Wow. Central Arkansas beat them by near 30. Anyone still pining for Cuonzo?

Cuonzos at Missouri
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 07, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
Cuonzos at Missouri

He is. And he was at Cal last season. And he would likely still be at Mizzou even if he had been hired here. He took a solid Cal program and ran into the ground in three seasons. They'll be lucky to finish 11th in the PAC 12.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Windyplayer on December 07, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
He is. And he was at Cal last season. And he would likely still be at Mizzou even if he had been hired here. He took a solid Cal program and ran into the ground in three seasons. They'll be lucky to finish 11th in the PAC 12.
How did he run the program in the ground? I'm genuinely curious -- he very well may have.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 07, 2017, 03:39:35 PM
How did he run the program in the ground? I'm genuinely curious -- he very well may have.

How? You'd have to ask to Cal fans about the specifics. What I do know is that his time out there went like this:


He also managed to have a sexual harassment scandal with one of his assistants IIRC.

Don't know what would have happened if Cuonzo came here, but I'm pretty sure that we would have still left for the Mizzou job. I know if the results had been a missed postseason, an NCAA first round exit, an NIT first round exit, and then starting what seems like a multi-year rebuild with a new coach....I would have been pissed.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: brewcity77 on December 07, 2017, 05:28:30 PM
I wanted Martin, especially with how he seemed unfairly treated at Tennessee. But it's clear in retrospect he was running from something and not to something. I'd rather someone who seems to actually want to be at Marquette.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 07, 2017, 06:24:41 PM
I wanted Martin, especially with how he seemed unfairly treated at Tennessee. But it's clear in retrospect he was running from something and not to something. I'd rather someone who seems to actually want to be at Marquette.

And I think that came across in the interviews. He had no real plan/vision except recruiting (which is important and he is good with). His teams play defense, though.

That said, he has had problems, maybe not all his own as he is a good man. But, following Buzz...wasn’t going to happen.

#PPTskillsmatta
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 07, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
Fun fact I learned while looking up the capacity of the Joe Gentile arena:

Loyola is the only school in the state of Illinois to have won an NCAA championship in basketball.

1963

The team was notable in that it broke the so-called "gentlemen's agreement" amongst coaches in which no more than two black players would be on the floor at one time (and in some road games, black players would have to rotate so that only one of them was playing at any given moment): the Ramblers would regularly have three or four black starters, paving the way for the 1965-66 Texas Western Miners men's basketball team who would finally put the "agreement" to rest and have an all-black starting five.

On July 11, 2013, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of their championship, surviving members of Loyola's team were honored by President Barack Obama in a ceremony at the Oval Office of the White House. It also was announced that the entire team would be inducted in the College Basketball Hall of Fame in a ceremony scheduled for November 2013.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: barfolomew on December 07, 2017, 08:45:46 PM
I wanted Martin, especially with how he seemed unfairly treated at Tennessee.

You of all people should know what an RPI drain Tennessee-Martin would be.
Why the hell would you want them?
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Herman Cain on December 07, 2017, 09:03:50 PM
I remember watching Terry Furlow of Michigan State score 50,48 and 42 against Iowa, Northwestern and Ohio State in the pre 3 point era. I estimate the 3 point equivalent was probably 58,56 and 50.

Markus  picture shooting in the left panel for SOTG  reminds me a little bit of Furlows shooting style.

Furlow died in a cocaine related car crash which cut short a promising professional career.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: MU82 on December 08, 2017, 12:48:49 AM
The best pre-3-era game I saw a player have in person was Scott Skiles scoring 45 for Michigan State at Williams Arena. It seemed at least half of his shots were from NBA 3-point range. He was a hell of a college player, and a pretty good pro, too.
Title: Re: Markus Sets (Another) MU Record
Post by: Benny B on December 08, 2017, 08:21:33 AM
The best pre-3-era game I saw a player have in person was Scott Skiles scoring 45 for Michigan State at Williams Arena. It seemed at least half of his shots were from NBA 3-point range. He was a hell of a college player, and a pretty good pro, too.

He and Shaq were virtually unstoppable in NBA Jam (pre-Tournament Edition).