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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on April 03, 2014, 08:44:13 AM
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http://www.thesportsbank.net/duke-blue-devils/jabari-parker-staying-654/
They signed 4 and expected 4 to leave (including Parker). If he stays someone gotta go.
So what poor McD AA at the end of the bench is looking for a new home?
Time for Wojo to spring into action.
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http://www.thesportsbank.net/duke-blue-devils/jabari-parker-staying-654/
They signed 4 and expected 4 to leave (including Parker). If he stays someone gotta go.
So what poor McD AA at the end of the bench is looking for a new home?
Time for Wojo to spring into action.
It's nice to dream big, but folks need to slow down. If a McD AA has to leave Duke, his options include UNC, Kansas, Florida, Syracuse, etc. The big boys. MU is a bit further down the list.
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so the one year the Lakers are horrible, one of the top NBA picks decides he should go back to school, great... (also sucks for the bucks)
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Someone mentioned Semi Ojeleye in a different thread as a potential transfer. Was ranked 40th by ESPN last year, and didn't see much time as a freshman.
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If all our players and recruits stay then we won't have an open scholarship to give. If Buzz got crucified for the Newbill situation, we should hold Wojo to that same standard. Now if a recruit or player bolts. . . Fair game.
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I'll say it.
If Jabari stays in school, he is a fool.
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Someone mentioned Semi Ojeleye in a different thread as a potential transfer. Was ranked 40th by ESPN last year, and didn't see much time as a freshman.
Probably will not see to much time in the future either, for sure if Parker is staying and 4 more AA's coming in. I think they will be pretty deep next year, watch out Badgers.
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If all our players and recruits stay then we won't have an open scholarship to give. If Buzz got crucified for the Newbill situation, we should hold Wojo to that same standard. Now if a recruit or player bolts. . . Fair game.
Sounds like Shayok is gone for sure.
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Someone mentioned Semi Ojeleye in a different thread as a potential transfer. Was ranked 40th by ESPN last year, and didn't see much time as a freshman.
There has been considerable talk about this even before the season ended. Dook has a fairly high historical transfer rate because K doesn't play very deep into his bench...many believe it's one reason his teams often flame out in the post season. When most of the starting five is playing 35 plus minutes a night all season long, especially in early non conference games, they get very tired legs and you see it show up when their threes stop dropping.
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Sounds like Shayok is gone for sure.
See ya.
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Someone mentioned Semi Ojeleye in a different thread as a potential transfer. Was ranked 40th by ESPN last year, and didn't see much time as a freshman.
Not holding my breath on that. I'll hold it for Cohen and Hill though.
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Sounds like Shayok is gone for sure.
A lot of folks are saying this... did I miss something? I saw that an East coast blogger speculate that he was going to ask out of his NLI prior to naming Wojo but has there been anything else?
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Sounds like Shayok is gone for sure.
I think it is best to have only 12 kids on scholarship as it is always nice to pick up a transfer later in the spring. Losing Shayok, a two guard is not that big a deal. Cohen or Hill, one of them
will show up. Rather have Hill, he is physically ready to play. It was nice to here that Duane Wilson put on 16 lbs. this year, he needed it, so does Cohen.
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It's nice to dream big, but folks need to slow down. If a McD AA has to leave Duke, his options include UNC, Kansas, Florida, Syracuse, etc. The big boys. MU is a bit further down the list.
losers way of thinking, aim high
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It's nice to dream big, but folks need to slow down. If a McD AA has to leave Duke, his options include UNC, Kansas, Florida, Syracuse, etc. The big boys. MU is a bit further down the list.
It is extremely rare for a highly ranked player to go to a blue blood program, not play, and then transfer to another blue blood program. If you didn't make at your first blue blood, you're gonna have to take a step down when you transfer.
Now if an incoming guy is let go, that is a different situation. Although blue blood spots are hard to find after the season's over.
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Unless someone decides to be a walk-on. Creighton.
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Wondering if players have transferred out of the Duke program in the past when an assistant left to become a head coach? Is there any precedent?
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A lot of folks are saying this... did I miss something? I saw that an East coast blogger speculate that he was going to ask out of his NLI prior to naming Wojo but has there been anything else?
Adam Zagoria.
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Wondering if players have transferred out of the Duke program in the past when an assistant left to become a head coach? Is there any precedent?
Other than Quin Snyder going to Missouri most Duke assistants started at schools that were "too far down" for a top 20 kid to consider. And in the Missouri case, they were also a bad team at that time.
Wojo is going to the strongest and highest profile team of any Duke assistant for this first job.
Duke Assistant first Head Coaching Job
Tommy Amaker: Seton Hall (1997–2001)
Bob Bender: Washington (1993–2002)
Mike Brey: Delaware (1995–2000)
Jeff Capel: VCU (2002–2006)
Chris Collins: Northwestern (2013–present)
Johnny Dawkins: Stanford (2008–present)
Mike Dement: UNC Greensboro (1991–1995)
David Henderson: Delaware (2000–2006)
Bobby Hurley: Buffalo (2013–present)
Tim O'Toole: Fairfield (1998–2006)
Quin Snyder: Missouri (1999–2006)
Steve Wojciechowski: Marquette (2014–present)
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It is extremely rare for a highly ranked player to go to a blue blood program, not play, and then transfer to another blue blood program. If you didn't make at your first blue blood, you're gonna have to take a step down when you transfer.
Now if an incoming guy is let go, that is a different situation. Although blue blood spots are hard to find after the season's over.
+1
If you're riding the bench at Duke, it means you're not good enough to play. If you leave for that reason, you're not getting offers from Kansas, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA etc. They will assume you cannot play their either for the same reason.
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And Duke could sign Myles Turner as well too!
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It is extremely rare for a highly ranked player to go to a blue blood program, not play, and then transfer to another blue blood program. If you didn't make at your first blue blood, you're gonna have to take a step down when you transfer.
Now if an incoming guy is let go, that is a different situation. Although blue blood spots are hard to find after the season's over.
Good point. That's true.
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Adam Zagoria.
That's who I was referring to but has there been any other updates? I believe he was speculating that Shayok would ask out of NLI. I didn't see it confirmed that he would be asking out.
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That's who I was referring to but has there been any other updates? I believe he was speculating that Shayok would ask out of NLI. I didn't see it confirmed that he would be asking out.
Whether he's asked or not, I don't think anybody is getting out of their NLI until Wojo has a chance to talk with him and evaluate whether he wants the kid at MU.
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It is extremely rare for a highly ranked player to go to a blue blood program, not play, and then transfer to another blue blood program. If you didn't make at your first blue blood, you're gonna have to take a step down when you transfer.
except the Wear twins that transferred from UNC to UCLA
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And Duke could sign Myles Turner as well too!
They did an interview with Turner at the McD's All American last night. The kid is extremely well spoken and already sounds like a man.
Seems to me that he's quite intelligent. They said that he won't make a decision on where he goes until he sees how the landscape in college bball plays out after the final four. After the nba draft appropriate people have made their decisions, he's expected to choose a place. To me, it sounds like he wants to play for a national title and play boku minutes. I doubt Wojo would pluck him. My guess is that he shoots over to Kansas, Kentucky, or UNC.... maybe Duke. Those seem like the best possibilities based on the criteria given. He's a Texas native... so SMU and Texas are outside chances. Va Tech isn't as Buzz doesn't like big men that are more articulate than he is.
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except the Wear twins that transferred from UNC to UCLA
They did not transferred because they sucked and did not play. They transferred like Larry Drew, because they hated Roy and UNC.
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I'll say it.
If Jabari stays in school, he is a fool.
I guess Tim Duncan and Grant Hill were fools, too.
People need to do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. Maybe Jabari Parker actually loves being a Duke student, wants to improve his game even more and wants a crack at a national title, all the while knowing that the money will be there for him a year (or 2) from now.
Sounds really foolish.
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I guess Tim Duncan and Grant Hill were fools, too.
People need to do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. Maybe Jabari Parker actually loves being a Duke student, wants to improve his game even more and wants a crack at a national title, all the while knowing that the money will be there for him a year (or 2) from now.
Sounds really foolish.
Perhaps Jabari is intelligent enough to know that his defense is atrocious even at the college level. Smart move by him if he stays. I think losing to Mercer really got under his skin, which makes me like him even more. This kid wants to win..... badly.
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I guess Tim Duncan and Grant Hill were fools, too.
People need to do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. Maybe Jabari Parker actually loves being a Duke student, wants to improve his game even more and wants a crack at a national title, all the while knowing that the money will be there for him a year (or 2) from now.
Sounds really foolish.
Lol Collective bargaining rules were different. Rookie contracts are set in stone by the NBA. Skipping out on getting drafted these days costs a player a lot of money. The sooner you get out of your rookie contract the more money you will make. Why risk injury and having your draft stock fall?
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I guess Tim Duncan and Grant Hill were fools, too.
People need to do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. Maybe Jabari Parker actually loves being a Duke student, wants to improve his game even more and wants a crack at a national title, all the while knowing that the money will be there for him a year (or 2) from now.
Sounds really foolish.
He should, of course, do what he thinks is best for him.
That said, there's certainly no guarantee the money will be there for him in a year or two. An injury, production below expectations, etc., all could cost him.
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Sounds like Shayok is gone for sure.
Shayok and Peirce are gone
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Otherwise, WoJo could just adopt some recruit, hey?
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Otherwise, WoJo could judge adopt some recruit, hey?
Straight out of the Woody Allen playbook eh?
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Lol Collective bargaining rules were different. Rookie contracts are set in stone by the NBA. Skipping out on getting drafted these days costs a player a lot of money. The sooner you get out of your rookie contract the more money you will make. Why risk injury and having your draft stock fall?
His pay is fixed and known for the first four years. The sooner you get started with the rookie contract the sooner this contract ends and you can sign your second contract as a free-agent for multiples of this.
Staying another year at Duke means he is one more year from his second contract and it could cost him $10 to $15 million.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop/2012/06/28/the-structure-of-nba-rookie-contracts/
The initial term of an NBA rookie contract is two years. However, teams may exercise an option to re-sign a rookie for a third season. This option may be exercised after the completion of the player’s first season until the following October 31. Additionally, if a team exercises its option to keep the player for his third season, it may also exercise an option to keep the player for his fourth season. This option is exercisable from the last day of the player’s second season through the following October 31.
In terms of rookie contracts, there is not much for agents to negotiate for their clients in the way of salaries. Rather, the NBA works under a rookie salary scale. Thus, the amount of salary a player receives under the rookie contract depends upon where he was drafted. The following shows the rookie wage scale for players drafted in the 2012 NBA Draft:
Pick 2012-13 Season 2013-14 Season 2014-15 Season
1 $4,286,900.00 $4,479,800.00 $4,672,700.00
2 $3,835,600.00 $4,008,200.00 $4,180,800.00
3 $3,444,400.00 $3,599,400.00 $3,754,400.00
4 $3,105,500.00 $3,245,200.00 $3,385,000.00
5 $2,812,200.00 $2,938,700.00 $3,065,300.00
6 $2,554,200.00 $2,669,100.00 $2,784,100.00
7 $2,331,700.00 $2,436,600.00 $2,541,600.00
8 $2,136,100.00 $2,232,200.00 $2,328,300.00
9 $1,963,600.00 $2,052,000.00 $2,140,300.00
10 $1,865,300.00 $1,949,200.00 $2,033,200.00
11 $1,772,100.00 $1,851,800.00 $1,931,600.00
12 $1,683,500.00 $1,759,300.00 $1,835,000.00
13 $1,599,300.00 $1,671,300.00 $1,743,200.00
14 $1,519,400.00 $1,587,800.00 $1,656,100.00
15 $1,443,300.00 $1,508,200.00 $1,573,200.00
16 $1,371,200.00 $1,432,900.00 $1,494,600.00
17 $1,302,600.00 $1,361,200.00 $1,419,800.00
18 $1,237,500.00 $1,293,200.00 $1,348,900.00
19 $1,181,800.00 $1,235,000.00 $1,288,200.00
20 $1,134,500.00 $1,185,600.00 $1,236,600.00
21 $1,089,100.00 $1,138,100.00 $1,187,100.00
22 $1,045,600.00 $1,092,700.00 $1,139,700.00
23 $1,003,800.00 $1,049,000.00 $1,094,100.00
24 $963,600.00 $1,007,000.00 $1,050,300.00
25 $925,100.00 $966,700.00 $1,008,400.00
26 $894,400.00 $934,600.00 $974,900.00
27 $868,600.00 $907,700.00 $946,800.00
28 $863,300.00 $902,100.00 $941,000.00
29 $857,000.00 $895,600.00 $934,100.00
30 $850,800.00 $889,100.00 $927,400.00
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His pay is fixed and known for the first three years. The sooner so get started with the rookie contract the sooner this contract ends and you can sign your second contract as a free-agent for multiples of this.
Staying another year at Duke means he is one more year from his second contract and it could cost him $10 to $15 million.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop/2012/06/28/the-structure-of-nba-rookie-contracts/
The initial term of an NBA rookie contract is two years. However, teams may exercise an option to re-sign a rookie for a third season. This option may be exercised after the completion of the player’s first season until the following October 31. Additionally, if a team exercises its option to keep the player for his third season, it may also exercise an option to keep the player for his fourth season. This option is exercisable from the last day of the player’s second season through the following October 31.
In terms of rookie contracts, there is not much for agents to negotiate for their clients in the way of salaries. Rather, the NBA works under a rookie salary scale. Thus, the amount of salary a player receives under the rookie contract depends upon where he was drafted. The following shows the rookie wage scale for players drafted in the 2012 NBA Draft:
Pick 2012-13 Season 2013-14 Season 2014-15 Season
1 $4,286,900.00 $4,479,800.00 $4,672,700.00
2 $3,835,600.00 $4,008,200.00 $4,180,800.00
3 $3,444,400.00 $3,599,400.00 $3,754,400.00
4 $3,105,500.00 $3,245,200.00 $3,385,000.00
5 $2,812,200.00 $2,938,700.00 $3,065,300.00
6 $2,554,200.00 $2,669,100.00 $2,784,100.00
7 $2,331,700.00 $2,436,600.00 $2,541,600.00
8 $2,136,100.00 $2,232,200.00 $2,328,300.00
9 $1,963,600.00 $2,052,000.00 $2,140,300.00
10 $1,865,300.00 $1,949,200.00 $2,033,200.00
11 $1,772,100.00 $1,851,800.00 $1,931,600.00
12 $1,683,500.00 $1,759,300.00 $1,835,000.00
13 $1,599,300.00 $1,671,300.00 $1,743,200.00
14 $1,519,400.00 $1,587,800.00 $1,656,100.00
15 $1,443,300.00 $1,508,200.00 $1,573,200.00
16 $1,371,200.00 $1,432,900.00 $1,494,600.00
17 $1,302,600.00 $1,361,200.00 $1,419,800.00
18 $1,237,500.00 $1,293,200.00 $1,348,900.00
19 $1,181,800.00 $1,235,000.00 $1,288,200.00
20 $1,134,500.00 $1,185,600.00 $1,236,600.00
21 $1,089,100.00 $1,138,100.00 $1,187,100.00
22 $1,045,600.00 $1,092,700.00 $1,139,700.00
23 $1,003,800.00 $1,049,000.00 $1,094,100.00
24 $963,600.00 $1,007,000.00 $1,050,300.00
25 $925,100.00 $966,700.00 $1,008,400.00
26 $894,400.00 $934,600.00 $974,900.00
27 $868,600.00 $907,700.00 $946,800.00
28 $863,300.00 $902,100.00 $941,000.00
29 $857,000.00 $895,600.00 $934,100.00
30 $850,800.00 $889,100.00 $927,400.00
Boom. Exactly.
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Boom. Exactly.
Why in the world would you need to hire an agent for the first 3 years then? It's as if you're being taxed an extra 3% and not getting much, if any value in return.
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Why in the world would you need to hire an agent for the first 3 years then? It's as if you're being taxed an extra 3% and not getting much, if any value in return.
No one accused most of these guys of being rocket surgeons. ;D
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Why in the world would you need to hire an agent for the first 3 years then? It's as if you're being taxed an extra 3% and not getting much, if any value in return.
Endorsements
Tax/Estate planning
Investing
Access to good criminal attorneys
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Endorsements
Tax/Estate planning
Investing
Access to good criminal attorneys
So not only does the agent get his 3%, but he probably gets a kickback from the tax/estate planner who also is going to pinch a few percentage points from the player. 5% is already gone off the top, at least. Most players don't get endorsements and if they do, they generally aren't worth much. The big name players, yes, I can see what an agent would do for them. For a player like, Nate Wolters, on the Bucks.... it seems like a waste of money.
Access to good criminal attorneys - are you saying a lot of NBA players are criminals?
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Perhaps Jabari is intelligent enough to know that his defense is atrocious even at the college level. Smart move by him if he stays. I think losing to Mercer really got under his skin, which makes me like him even more. This kid wants to win..... badly.
I won't call him dumb or any idiot, but I don't understand why people think the best way to improve is to have another year with the same coaches playing inferior opponents. College coaches are usually better recruiters than coaches. Why not practice against the best in the world under the world's best coaches?
I can see not wanting to leave without a championship, though.
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I won't call him dumb or any idiot, but I don't understand why people think the best way to improve is to have another year with the same coaches playing inferior opponents. College coaches are usually better recruiters than coaches. Why not practice against the best in the world under the world's best coaches?
I can see not wanting to leave without a championship, though.
Coach K is one of the best teachers in the world. Not to mention, the NBA game isn't as friendly to younger folks. The NBA is much more individualistic where players do their own thing during downtime. There isn't that same sense of family as there is in college. They may go to bars/clubs, etc while Jabari isn't even old enough for that. The coach doesn't have as much interaction, concerning the player's personal life. In college, the coach is essentially a dad, whereas in the NBA it's like an Uncle. Coach K can give Parker much more attention than any NBA coach.
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Why in the world would you need to hire an agent for the first 3 years then? It's as if you're being taxed an extra 3% and not getting much, if any value in return.
Representation for endorsements, legal advice, (hopefully) protecting/investing their money, managing the athlete's image....
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Lol Collective bargaining rules were different. Rookie contracts are set in stone by the NBA. Skipping out on getting drafted these days costs a player a lot of money. The sooner you get out of your rookie contract the more money you will make. Why risk injury and having your draft stock fall?
Ummm ... because he likes being at Duke and staying would make him happy?
Look, I agree with all of the practical, logical, reasonable things you say. Logically (and financially), he should go. I would draft him No. 1, ahead of Wiggins.
But being happy (or being in love or being content, etc) defies logic. He should do what he wants to do and doesn't deserve to be called a fool for doing it.
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Coach K is one of the best teachers in the world. Not to mention, the NBA game isn't as friendly to younger folks. The NBA is much more individualistic where players do their own thing during downtime. There isn't that same sense of family as there is in college. They may go to bars/clubs, etc while Jabari isn't even old enough for that. The coach doesn't have as much interaction, concerning the player's personal life. In college, the coach is essentially a dad, whereas in the NBA it's like an Uncle. Coach K can give Parker much more attention than any NBA coach.
Are you saying to grow as a person or a player? You specifically said he needs to improve on the defensive end. He will do that better in the NBA going against the top players in the world. College also plays more zone defenses, where as he really needs to improve on man-to-man
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Straight out of the Woody Allen playbook eh?
I see you're new here.
That's straight out of the Equalizer's playbook.
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I see you're new here.
That's straight out of the Equalizer's playbook.
Equalizer? Could you be any more vague?
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They did an interview with Turner at the McD's All American last night. The kid is extremely well spoken and already sounds like a man.
Seems to me that he's quite intelligent. They said that he won't make a decision on where he goes until he sees how the landscape in college bball plays out after the final four. After the nba draft appropriate people have made their decisions, he's expected to choose a place. To me, it sounds like he wants to play for a national title and play boku minutes. I doubt Wojo would pluck him. My guess is that he shoots over to Kansas, Kentucky, or UNC.... maybe Duke. Those seem like the best possibilities based on the criteria given. He's a Texas native... so SMU and Texas are outside chances. Va Tech isn't as Buzz doesn't like big men that are more articulate than he is.
I meant Turner to Duke.
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I'll say it.
If Jabari stays in school, he is a fool.
Respectfully disagree. He will mature, and grow as a player at Duke. IMO, good enough to play in the NBA right now (obviously) but to be a star? Won't another year under Coach K help that?.... That, plus the chance to not lose in the first second round of the NCAAs?
Eh. Maybe I am the fool.
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Money talks.
Never do something for free if you're good at it.
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Money talks.
Never do something for free if you're good at it.
1 more year in college could benefit him down the road. Not to mention, it's less wear and tear on his body and will allow him to mature mentally in a more controlled environment.
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I think Duke loses 5 Tyler T..Josh H..Andrew D...Todd Z (All seniors) and Alex Murphy transfer to Florida. With 4 commits they still have 1 more including Parker. Semi would be a steal if Wojo is lucky!!
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Money talks.
Never do something for free if you're good at it.
I guess we won't be seeing Hards volunteering for any charities anytime soon.
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I guess we won't be seeing Hards volunteering for any charities anytime soon.
You won't see me giving up a year of income to volunteer for a charity (plus I wouldn't call the NCAA a charity :D), no.
I doubt anyone else here would... and I'm not even getting paid millions... yet :P
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See ya Mario and Satch---there's the door. Come on down Semi .
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Respectfully disagree. He will mature, and grow as a player at Duke. IMO, good enough to play in the NBA right now (obviously) but to be a star? Won't another year under Coach K help that?.... That, plus the chance to not lose in the first second round of the NCAAs?
Eh. Maybe I am the fool.
http://deadspin.com/marcus-smart-did-the-right-thing-and-look-where-it-go-1546498463
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I'll say it.
If Jabari stays in school, he is a fool.
I'm surprised Jabari hasn't called you for advice since you seem to know what is best for him.
And if there is a "fool" contest between you and Jabari, guess who I will declare the winner.
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http://deadspin.com/marcus-smart-did-the-right-thing-and-look-where-it-go-1546498463
The same people who say you develop better in college are the same people who think college players are better shooters or the idiots that think the best college team could beat the worse NBA team.
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http://deadspin.com/marcus-smart-did-the-right-thing-and-look-where-it-go-1546498463
The most moral man in college basketball ... John Calipari.
All of this is why John Calipari is the smartest and, in his slickster way, the most honest man in college basketball. His sales pitch to the best of the best NBA prospects is that his style of basketball will prepare his players for their ultimate goal: NBA success. Calipari has delivered on this promise by getting an average of 3.25 Kentucky players drafted in the first round since he's been there.
And—funny coincidence—getting the best pro prospects also help you win games in college, too. Calipari's Kentucky teams have won 80.3 percent of their games, narrowly behind Kansas, Duke, Syracuse, and Ohio State (in that order) for the best clip in major conference basketball since '09-'10. By gathering up the best NBA talent and sending them right into the pros, Kentucky ensures that their current players capitalize on that happy medium between revealed talent and projectable potential while continuing to attract the next batch of superstars to follow in those guys' wake. It's a win-win for the parties that matter most.
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I'm surprised Jabari hasn't called you for advice since you seem to know what is best for him.
And if there is a "fool" contest between you and Jabari, guess who I will declare the winner.
Panties in a bunch today?
If you agree with him staying in school you are a Grade A Moron.
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Shayok and Peirce are gone
IWB confirm that for you?
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Panties in a bunch today?
If you agree with him staying in school you are a Grade A Moron.
Don't agree or disagree. He'll do what's best for himself without my help.
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Don't agree or disagree. He'll do what's best for himself without my help.
Logically justify him staying in school when he is a top 3 pick.
You just can't! Loss of money, guaranteed shorter career, increased risk of injury, increased chance people 'figure him out'...
The only 'positive' is that he may win a National Championship at Duke. Yikes.
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Other than Quin Snyder going to Missouri most Duke assistants started at schools that were "too far down" for a top 20 kid to consider. And in the Missouri case, they were also a bad team at that time.
Wojo is going to the strongest and highest profile team of any Duke assistant for this first job.
Duke Assistant first Head Coaching Job
Tommy Amaker: Seton Hall (1997–2001)
Bob Bender: Washington (1993–2002)
Mike Brey: Delaware (1995–2000)
Jeff Capel: VCU (2002–2006)
Chris Collins: Northwestern (2013–present)
Johnny Dawkins: Stanford (2008–present)
Mike Dement: UNC Greensboro (1991–1995)
David Henderson: Delaware (2000–2006)
Bobby Hurley: Buffalo (2013–present)
Tim O'Toole: Fairfield (1998–2006)
Quin Snyder: Missouri (1999–2006)
Steve Wojciechowski: Marquette (2014–present)
Bender's Baseline Bunch actually started at Illinois State, proving your point even more.
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Logically justify him staying in school when he is a top 3 pick.
You just can't! Loss of money, guaranteed shorter career, increased risk of injury, increased chance people 'figure him out'...
The only 'positive' is that he may win a National Championship at Duke. Yikes.
Quality of life. Some people place a lot of value in it. I can't speak for Jabari anymore than you can.
Staying would delay his big contract for one year. He could just as easily get injured during his rookie contract. I have no doubt he will have some type of insurance policy if he does decide to stay.
My guess is that he will opt for the draft making all of this a moot point.
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Quality of life. Some people place a lot of value in it. I can't speak for Jabari anymore than you can.
Staying would delay his big contract for one year. He could just as easily get injured during his rookie contract. I have no doubt he will have some type of insurance policy if he does decide to stay.
My guess is that he will opt for the draft making all of this a moot point.
Jabari is going to be one of the most marketable athletes not just in the NBA, but in all of sports. He will be able to make up for that one year with his sizable endorsement contracts.
Also, the incoming Duke recruiting class is legit. Would be MU's starting lineup playing 4 v. 5. Duke will be the heavily favored NC next yr.
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Logically justify him staying in school when he is a top 3 pick.
You just can't! Loss of money, guaranteed shorter career, increased risk of injury, increased chance people 'figure him out'...
The only 'positive' is that he may win a National Championship at Duke. Yikes.
He may be enjoying himself at Duke and want to have another year there. He comes from a religious family and money may not be the most important thing to him even if he didn't have it growing up. He seems to be a kid with a good head on his shoulders capable of making a reasoned decision.
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Logically justify him staying in school when he is a top 3 pick.
You just can't! Loss of money, guaranteed shorter career, increased risk of injury, increased chance people 'figure him out'...
The only 'positive' is that he may win a National Championship at Duke. Yikes.
I acknowledged in an earlier comment that it's not about logic.
Love isn't logical, either, and yet folks fall in love every day.
Again, maybe Parker simply wants to be a student one more year for a variety of reasons. I respect him for whatever decision he makes. I surely wouldn't call him a fool or moron, either way.
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When did Bobby Hurley serve as an assistant at Duke? I don't recall him ever coaching there.
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Money talks.
Never do something for free if you're good at it.
You must abhor volunteer work and pro bono stuff
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http://deadspin.com/marcus-smart-did-the-right-thing-and-look-where-it-go-1546498463
Fair points. More so than anything else, I think Parker would come back to win and advance farther in the NCAAs. Wants to win. I do agree the maturation arguments are a bit weak. Agree with much of the article, but would like to see Parker back at Duke. And that is selfish, as I don't watch as much of the NBA.
And for what it's worth, I suspect Parker is much less likely to have an "altercation" a la Marcus Smart. (not that it means anything).
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Fair points. More so than anything else, I think Parker would come back to win and advance farther in the NCAAs. Wants to win. I do agree the maturation arguments are a bit weak. Agree with much of the article, but would like to see Parker back at Duke. And that is selfish, as I don't watch as much of the NBA.
And for what it's worth, I suspect Parker is much less likely to have an "altercation" a la Marcus Smart. (not that it means anything).
Don't you think having a subpar season contributed to smart's hair trigger?
If Parker has a subpar season at Duke next season, and Duke is disappointing, and Parker goes into the crowd at UNC to save a ball, and comes face to face with rapid tar-heel fans ... You positive nothing comes of it?
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Don't you think having a subpar season contributed to smart's hair trigger?
If Parker has a subpar season at Duke next season, and Duke is disappointing, and Parker goes into the crowd at UNC to save a ball, and comes face to face with rapid tar-heel fans ... You positive nothing comes of it?
Would be foolish to be completely certain on something like that. Not possible.
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Parker's supporting cast is much better than Smart's. Duke is going to be the Miami heat of CBB.
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You won't see me giving up a year of income to volunteer for a charity (plus I wouldn't call the NCAA a charity :D), no.
I doubt anyone else here would... and I'm not even getting paid millions... yet :P
Well, the NCAA does have 501(c)3 status, so yeah... it's pretty much a charity.